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bellowsgulch3 days ago
After watching for 20 or more years an explosion of the diagnosis, I’m not convinced it’s real because we can’t measure it in any meaningful way.

> Everyone gets distracted, forgets things, procrastinates, and loses their keys; what matters clinically is the severity, persistence, combination, and impairment associated with those experiences. Everyone pisses, too. But if you’re doing it 45 times a day, I’d probably go see a doctor.

OR. Here’s a controversial idea. We have a cultural problem in that if you have an issue it MUST be health related instead of you not having matured enough yet or built the experiences required to handle a situation.

Everyone has a disorder? Or do people just need to learn skills that genuinely take time to develop as a part of a life that requires a lot from you?

jrm43 days ago
I agree that "is the category real or not" is not as important as "are people helped by this."

And I'm increasingly of the opinion that on balance, people are not helped; I feel like concepts like ADHD, "neurodivergence," -- and even autism are terms whose present looseness cause more problems than they solve.

ectoloph3 days ago
I wasn't sure how I felt about this article but I think the author sums it up really nicely.

> What actually separates “I lost my keys” from “I have ADHD” was never the presence of the behaviour. It’s the degree of impairment — how much it’s costing you, how often, for how long, etc.

ADHD can be a real dichotomy. On the one hand, yes you can be successful and holding down a good job. But you may be doing so by existing on the edge of burnout and questioning when everyone else figures out you are faking the competence they see in you.

But people often don't see the frustration, despair or how much work finding systems to work with or around your brain has gone into it too.

Sometimes, the most helpful part of diagnosis is that you can name the experience. Otherwise you end up concluding you're worse than everyone else.

catchnear43213 days ago
> The antidote to heterogeneity isn’t more categories, you freak. What this categorical approach misses is the potentially vibrant inner world of each person’s specific bio-psycho-social phenomenological cocktail of experience. If we actually want to tackle heterogeneity, we should look at what symptoms people are experiencing and meet them where they’re at.

yes indeed. humans do not fit categories. categories are crudely fit to humans.

niemandhier3 days ago
But does it matter?

We probably all agree that it is bad to give kids pills to make them more quiet.

If you however have a young person that is honestly suffering from what they themself perceive as a “condition” and there is a stimulant that helps, why not apply this as a treatment?

We could stop calling it a Syndrom and just declare the people who benefit from the medication as lucky ones.

b0rtb0rt2 days ago
pretty much everyone is going to perform better on amphetamines
niemandhier2 days ago
Well I don’t. Had the stuff prescribed as a kid, it did not help at all, turns out: I just was terminally bored at school.

Based on that I almost dissuaded friends to get their kid medicated, luckily they did follow the doctors recommendation. The child is much happier now and regained trust in his own self-efficacy.

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