Tesla now builds several hundred Optimus robots a week, but a new report says the hands break, suppliers can't keep up, and the AI can't generalize.

11 points•vidulous•5 days ago•26 comments•

26 comments

qlte5 days ago

  This is also a far cry from what Musk was saying last year. In January 2025, he said Tesla would build about 10,000 Optimus robots in 2025 and that “several thousand” would be doing useful work by year-end. A year later, he admitted that zero Optimus robots were doing useful work at Tesla. He also promised a V3 reveal by mid-2026. It’s late September, and that demo still hasn’t happened.
micromacrofoot5 days ago
why do people keep listening to him, he's done this dozens of times
persolb5 days ago
How schedules are crazy, but the results are in the right direction. Current FSD does seem safer than humans. Reusable rockets are now a thing.

But hundred of miles of tunnels, and driverless cars, and Mars base… not yet. Probably not ever for Mars.

thg5 days ago
"Wildly overpromising and catastrophically underdelivering" is his signature move.
ActionHank5 days ago
Is it news that he lied? Feel like he's lied more than he's been honest.
Eddy_Viscosity25 days ago
For deeply narcissistic people like Elon, and Trump is in the same category, words are neither true or false, they are only a means to an end. They say words to get people to do things they want. Words that do this well are good and true and words that don't are fake news.
electriclove5 days ago
Oh come on, we know his timeline estimates can’t be taken seriously. This site/blogger has had it out for Musk for several years now
delecti5 days ago
"Richest man in the world is either wrong or lies a lot" remains a valid topic of reporting even if it has been true for a while.
toomuchtodo5 days ago
Reporting on habitual liars is "having it out" for someone? He lies, very frequently, it's public record. Those are facts, facts potentially worth reporting on. If one does not like the facts, that's a feeling. If one still supports the habitual liar for reasons, that’s a choice. Their hope is better spent on better people, but it’s their hope to spend and feelings to have.

https://elonmusk.today/

triceratops5 days ago
CEO of a public company lies about material information. Everyone knows he's lying, even his own investors and fans. But a journalist that tells the truth "has it out" for the CEO?
m4635 days ago
I thought that site used to be ok but then it became over-the-top negative towards tesla.

examples:

- Tesla Semi finally enters volume production, 7 years behind schedule

- Tesla ‘FSD’ sped in 55% of Brussels 30 km/h zones ahead of EU vote

- Tesla Full Self-Driving bug falsely flags dirty cameras, demands service

- Tesla’s active robotaxi fleet in Austin crashes back to 8 vehicles after Cybercab pump

- Tesla’s record month: 4 fatal Autopilot and Full Self-Driving crashes

I'm sort of reminded of Steve Job's retort:

"By the way, what have you done that's so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others work and belittle their motivations?"

Nowadays I tend to read this site instead:

https://www.notateslaapp.com/

ben_w5 days ago
Given their history with cars, this is shockingly poor performance.

I can only assume that behind the scenes this is a repeat of all that went wrong with the cybertruck.

margalabargala5 days ago
Other issues aside, "several hundred a week" is pretty impressive. They are either going to start finding jobs for the robots to do, or else have a glut of robots on their hands.
bryanlarsen5 days ago
And several days to learn a task? Is that supposed to be a dis? In 2026 with reinforcement learning maybe it is, but darn that seems super quick to me.
margalabargala5 days ago
Either you didn't understand my comment or I'm not understanding yours, but no, there was nothing in my comment meant as a diss.
specialist5 days ago
Ages ago, a friend worked in a testing lab. When asked about the work, he replied:

"It's chimp work. But chimps are too expensive, so they have us do it."

ben_w5 days ago
If they could sell all of them, they'd still only be the third biggest supplier.

Other players took the idea and did it better.

TYPE_FASTER5 days ago
The Elon vs. Zuck cage match might just happen after all.
IshKebab5 days ago
Wait they actually stopped producing cars for this? I guess nobody was buying them, otherwise that's insane.
ben_w5 days ago
Same's scheduled to happen with the Falcon being wound down for Starship.

Also nuts at this point. Though the latter is good for everyone else as it forces development of alternatives.

IshKebab5 days ago
That's way less nuts. They've proven Starship can get to orbit so it's already viable for payloads. And it has a much larger payload capacity than Falcon 9. They've also recovered a booster. So realistically they can use it in disposable mode now, reusable booster in ~1 year (at which point it is better than Falcon 9) and maybe fully reusable in 5 years.

Compared to humanoid robots where we might be 10-30 years away from having something that works well.

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