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eliasebnerabout 9 hours ago
I don't even know what this is, but I must say, AI features don't seem to be improving the web experience, so anything AI related is usually not worth keeping (as far as I know, maybe there is something I haven't considered).

Mozilla seems to be going down a lot of rather futile side-paths, if you know what I mean. Nobody asked for this? Just make Firefox a better browser, work on the web standards I guess, do the things people actually need.

SyneRyderabout 9 hours ago
The only AI thing Mozilla added that I thought was genuinely useful, was on device language translation. Being able to read foreign language pages without feeding your browsing history into Google Translate is pretty cool.

But that's the only thing I've liked, and they keep killing projects that were genuinely useful and worth paying for (Pocket, Firefox Send).

andrewl-hnabout 9 hours ago
One other "AI" thing that I really liked came before the LLM boom. Mozilla made a speech-to-text engine called [DeepSpeech](https://github.com/mozilla/DeepSpeech) for running on-device when you use dictation in the browser. Apparently, it was discontinued last year, so I'm not sure what they use now.
jeroenhdabout 9 hours ago
I find the tab group name suggestor pretty useful (if a bit overkill). Very rarely activates (if ever) and doesn't consume many cycles.

I'd use the page summaries too if they didn't rely on some foreign server processing all the text.

thayneabout 9 hours ago
> Mozilla seems to be going down a lot of rather futile side-paths, if you know what I mean

This has a been a pattern for Mozilla for a long time. I think part of the reason reason is they are trying to find a way to make money that isn't dependent on a search deal with Google. But most of their attempts end up not being something people actually want and/or what they make isn't actually good enough to draw people. But even when they make something decent, like Lockwise and Send, they seem to lose interest and give it up.

munificentabout 9 hours ago
> Nobody asked for this? Just make Firefox a better browser, work on the web standards I guess, do the things people actually need.

That's what I wish they would do too. But, realistically, that stuff doesn't actually pay the bills. How many Firefox users actually pay for it? So I'm not surprised that they're thrashing around trying to find some way to make money beyond Google paying them for the search bar.

Zanfaabout 9 hours ago
Mozilla is already Google's charity project. They squandered Firefox's marketshare and there's really no reason for Google to pay them as much as they do at the moment, other than to pretend there's competition in browser engines and it's not just Chrome + Safari.

An absolute failure of Mozilla's leadership.

mhurronabout 9 hours ago
> How many Firefox users actually pay for it?

None, since you can't.

lenerdenatorabout 9 hours ago
That then begs the question: how much does Mozilla really need?

The AI push and all of their little side-projects that no one asked for are pushes to make money that they arguably wouldn't need to make if they stopped with their little side-projects.

I know that there's a bit of for-profit/non-profit mix going on with the corporate structure of Mozilla. Ultimately, if you make free software, just stick with the non-profit side of things. Make browser improvements, update documentation. That's it. That's all that Mozilla needs to do.

KetoManx64about 7 hours ago
Mozilla has grown very fat and lazy over the past decade+ of receiving the big checks from Google, very little of what they do is actually trying to compete in the market, and most of it is "let's throw something at the wall and see if it sticks and then lets go out for a 3 hour lunch and have mimmoas on our bloated middle manager salaries"
VCFundedGenYerabout 9 hours ago
> AI features don't seem to be improving the web experience

Elaborate? it's done nothing but ruin the internet so far. Slop content, search engines are unusable, and now the lowest common denominator simply chatbots a half-baked website and thinks it's good when it isn't.

tostiabout 6 hours ago
Perhaps you missed the word "don't" in there.
xackyabout 9 hours ago
Mozilla will do anything but work through the decades old backlog on Bugzilla.
driverdanabout 9 hours ago
Not that it excuses how long some FF bugs have been around but they can work on multiple products at the same time.
dpkirchnerabout 9 hours ago
Which of the decades old bugs are currently affecting you?
kdkckekciejxjabout 9 hours ago
Improving existing products does nothing to help fill the pockets of those higher up, so, you know, why bother?
someotherpersonabout 10 hours ago
Mozilla will be studied in the future. It's actually a masterful act from Google on how to stifle the competition and protect your bottomline.

Really, really wish that Mozilla just shuts down, so that the FOSS community can turn their attention to an actual, intentionally competitive alternative. Would love to see Canonical or similar lead the way here.

cubefoxabout 9 hours ago
The opposite is true. Google has been the main funding source for Mozilla. Without Google no Firefox. But a US antitrust ruling from last year says their current deal can't continue, which implies strongly reduced funding. Mozilla needs to find alternative revenue sources or they f*ed.
cyanmagentaabout 9 hours ago
> The opposite is true. Google has been the main funding source for Mozilla

I think the point is more that Google has propped up a hapless, ineffectual competitor so that it can point to “competition” when antitrust probes seek to have them spin off their Chrome division or whatever.

staticman2about 9 hours ago
Is "implies strongly reduced funding" your personal analysis/ opinion or is there some article or other source for this?
hbcondo714about 9 hours ago
I just remembered I created a website via Solo when it was released a couple years ago: https://soloist.ai/amarkota

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m4rtinkabout 9 hours ago
Mozilla had something called Solo AI website creator ?

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