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US tells France and Germany to release diesel stocks or face US export banreuters.com
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GJimabout 1 hour ago
Mango Mussolini is afraid he will suffer at the US midterm elections, hence bullying Europe to use thier stratigic reserves (during a war he started!) to help lower diesel prices in the USA.

The USA has lost the plot.

slow_typistabout 1 hour ago
Europe hasn’t grown some balls yet and I am afraid they will roll over again.
modo_marioabout 1 hour ago
I'd predict the same but france had partial fuel shortages recently (maybe still?) and there's a limit to what they can do without torches getting lit.
sofixaabout 1 hour ago
European economies are suffering (and have been since COVID), and russia is a much bigger threat to deal with, so the EU is always trying to take the big boy role and be friendly to get as much as possible. Confrontation would be disastrous for us, and it would be cutting our noses to spite the orange guy who wouldn't get it anyways. When red lines were about to be crossed (Greenland), there was a strong response, but for the rest it's easier to handwave

Meanwhile more strategic autonomy is being built up, but it will take years; when one of Trump's sons is president, we'll be in a better position to properly stand up.

bsoqk43 minutes ago
This is very insulting to Mussolini, who loved his country and never put its economy in jeopardy to serve a shadowy cabal.
pjc5037 minutes ago
Apart from unnecessarily joining WW2 and getting the country flattened, when he could have sat it out like Franco?
birdsongs4 minutes ago
> Mussolini, who loved his country

Um,

Tuna-Fish38 minutes ago
I mean... He joined ww2 on a rush schedule because he thought he was going to miss the fall of france, when most of the italian merchant fleet was not at home and ended up being seized or sank by the royal navy. Later on, the lack of shipping was critical.

I guess you could make the case that he wasn't trying to serve his masters, and it was just greed?

clauderouxabout 1 hour ago
In France, we see a move to buy second hand EV, which up to now were a very hard sell on the car market. When a liter of petrol costs up to €2.3, it is pretty obvious that people will think twice in keeping their thermic car any longer.
Skwidabout 1 hour ago
Entirely off-topic, but in British english the usual term would be combustion vehicle, or more commonly just Petrol/Diesel.

A thermic vehicle sounds delightfully whimsical to my ear, like some sort of victorian steam car.

For some reason the form thermic is almost never used in English, instead preferring Thermal with only one exception I'm aware of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_lance

circuit1038 minutes ago
I've also seen them described as ICE cars (internal combustion engine)
pjc5033 minutes ago
I'm always a little surprised that France never took the next step of the Messmer plan by electrifying road transport earlier. But I suppose it's so contingent on the 21st century battery tech.
maelitoabout 1 hour ago
Diesel can even cost 3 €.

Also, 50 000 "leasing social" cars will soon appear on the 2nd hand market.

gaddersabout 1 hour ago
Probably harder to set on fire outside schools as well.
jjgreen20 minutes ago
No need, they burst into flames on their own.
harrouetabout 1 hour ago
History will remember this administration as a traitor to Europe and its values. Right when the US needs allies.
rwmj25 minutes ago
I dunno .. they're doing a marvelous job encouraging EV adoption.
raverbashing3 minutes ago
> this administration as a traitor to Europe and its values

More than Angela Merkel? I doubt it

x______________about 1 hour ago
> History will remember this administration as a traitor to Europe and its values. Right when the US needs allies.

Time fixes everything. Give it a few generations and the world will be inhibited by new humans who will carry on doing what life demands of them, unfazed by today's events.

x______________about 1 hour ago
Wait, this is not true? Tell me that Germany is no longer involved in world economics because of the events in the 1940's. Or the Usa in 45, or Mongolia terroritial claims during the Khan era, or any other world event in the past that is no longer relevant.

Please elaborate.

GJimabout 1 hour ago
If you think the USA will ever be trusted again as they were post-1945, you are very sadly mistaken.

Maybe some trust will be restored in a generations time, but there is no going back to the post-1945 hegemony which saw the USA, and the westen world, all benefit so much.

Frierenabout 2 hours ago
The US has become a very short-term individual interest focused country. There is no long term vision for the country, there is no care for their own citizens, only today's president's interest matter. Tomorrow doesnt exists. screw-the-future is their warmongering motto.

This goes beyond the price of diesel. It is an attack on basic survivability of the nations that may depend on that reserves in the future.

Never vote for a death cult.

7373737373about 1 hour ago
Also never vote for anyone who

- is incapable of apologizing

- has a history of abusive behavior

- doesn't have a sense of humor, especially at their own expense

"How to spot an idiot": https://youtube.com/watch?v=i2Lo8ChhOKU

gaddersabout 1 hour ago
What about people with alzheimers?

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