It gave Wall Street traders and analysts an unprecedented window on global markets

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rbanffyabout 11 hours ago
I have the highest regard for these terse, but information-dense displays that enable humans to quickly grasp all information they need to do their jobs, and nothing more. This is also something avionics provide - a modern cockpit displays are a work of art in layering needed information for what is happening at the time, both the dense PFD and the much specific that communicate aircraft status.
xp84about 5 hours ago
UI designers who were trained in the currently-popular paradigm would be at a complete loss to design such things. "Swipe left from the home screen, tap the nothingness on the screen to reveal the controls overlay, find the ••• in one corner of the screen, tap "More" in the 3-item menu, and then tap 'Bond Quote' in the modal dialog that takes over the entire screen." Keyboard shortcuts? "Hmm... interesting idea. Never thought of that. We might add those in a V2."
RedShift1about 2 hours ago
We already see this in car interfaces. Clearly designed by people that don't drive, or at the very least have not tested it themselves while driving.
bargainbinabout 4 hours ago
My god have you ever had those people try to add keyboard shortcuts? You start to question if they have ever used a keyboard at all.
msyabout 3 hours ago
This is the difference between accessible and efficient. Bloomberg, and aircraft controls are expert interfaces, they have steep learning curves and in the latter require case extensive education to use (Bloomberg also does a ton of work on user training). Which is absolutely fine when efficiency trumps everything else and it's a system people use all day every day.

Most interfaces we use on a day to day basis are the opposite, they're designed to be accessible (in the sense that you can use it if you are unfamiliar, not disability) for someone unfamiliar, untrained, and uninterested in learning, which also aligns a lot of the time with sales growth. Nobody is willing to do a 6 week course to use the new HR UI really, really efficiently. The unfortunate thing is some of these are enterprise UIs some of us do have to use all day every day and that's where the impedance mismatch gets painful.

sieveabout 3 hours ago
> Most interfaces we use on a day to day basis are the opposite, they're designed to be accessible

I read this and then I think of glass doors with handles on both sides that I don't open till I read the instruction on the affixed plate: PUSH/PULL. The door forces this decision on every single conscientious user. These things are everywhere, including software interfaces.

sota_popabout 2 hours ago
Was going to say almost exactly this. Very similar experience in my background as well (CAD interfaces).
ACS_Solverabout 9 hours ago
I love displays from space vehicles and nuclear plants for the same reason. Data and controls organized in a dense but presumably highly usable manner. And it covers the more specific view of an expert in a particular subsystem, as well as the higher level view of those responsible for the whole system.
jll29about 7 hours ago
Also on the input side: for instance here is a cheat sheet for a small part of the available keyboard commands: https://www.bbk.ac.uk/documents/bloomberg-cheatsheet.pdf
BlackRabbit1about 7 hours ago
I love NASA design of their space probe telemetry/control views.. lol.

It's so pure.

nxobjectabout 10 hours ago
I know it's impossible, but I've always loved to get a hands-on demo... I'd love to learn the UI patterns involved, for example. I can always make my Emacs faster to interact with, dammit!
lolpythonabout 9 hours ago
If you're in New York City, the New York Public Library has a terminal you can use.
peterleiserabout 9 hours ago
I had occasional access to a Bloomberg terminal 20 years ago and I still miss it. I miss it a lot. I wish they offered a cheaper option for users who only need to use it infrequently. I mean, $25,000 annually is brutal if you're not a broker-dealer.
gleglegleabout 9 hours ago
SeriousMabout 3 hours ago
I wonder how "make it Bloomberg terminal" would change the ui outcome from ai...
mandevilabout 10 hours ago
The modern Terminal is based on a private fork of Chromium to give it the look and feel of a VT100 terminal, and integrate their private networking and security technologies. The BBT predates HTTP, and backwards compatibility is hugely important to the company- they have a museum where a second-generation Terminal from ~1985 shows the current news, because they are so dedicated to backwards compatibility that they still can support the 1985 hardware.
apaprockiabout 10 hours ago
This isn’t really true. The old terminal monitors are essentially dumb CRTs and the the museum pieces are just displaying the output from a regular PC running the modern app converted to an appropriate signal + BNC connectors so you see something and not just a black screen.

The old terminal hardware communicated over dedicated serial lines and worked in conjunction with many other “server-side” pieces of software that no longer exist, so it would be impossible to make one function as it did back in the day.

rbanffyabout 9 hours ago
I would love to learn the specs of the original 1983 terminal. By the look of it, it's NTSC timings, so 200-ish lines, but it shows text and graphics, so it must have some bitmap capability. If I were to replicate the look, I'd use something that can display ReGIS or NAPLPS.
bowdenjabout 7 hours ago
> VT100

Haven't seen that term in so many years/decades. Thanks for the flashback.

jll29about 7 hours ago
For completeness' sake, here's also a history of competitor REUTERS' terminal:

• https://www.thebaron.info/archives/technology/reuter-monitor...

• https://www.thebaron.info/archives/technology/reuters-techni...

helsinkiandrewabout 10 hours ago
Related: A look back: The Bloomberg Keyboard

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17079033 (104 comments)

dangabout 9 hours ago
Thanks! Macroexpanded:

A look back: The Bloomberg Keyboard (2017) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20742329 - Aug 2019 (55 comments)

A look back: The Bloomberg Keyboard (2017) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17079033 - May 2018 (104 comments)

johnhamlinabout 9 hours ago
I did an internship in finance in college. Worked at a Bloomberg terminal that earned more money than me

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