How a Pole sees the world in September 2026: a scrolling essay that follows one closed strait into fuel, food, bonds, defence and demography.

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363 comments

jakozaurabout 16 hours ago
I'm Polish, but this is such a pessimistic, overdramatic take. The visualisations are impressive, but you're living in Poland's golden age. See this Hacker News story with 1,000+ upvotes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48062117

The war in Ukraine is a tragedy, but it has proved that Russia is weak. The price shock will speed up the transition to renewables, and Iran is losing its grip on Hormuz. So many of the other issues are solvable.

It's easy to be a pessimist, but there's a bright future ahead of us.

traceroute66about 15 hours ago
> and Iran is losing its grip on Hormuz

Remember this is a war that Iran has spent 40 years planning for.

Netanyahu has been doing the same "two weeks away" stand-up comedy since 1992.

Netanyahu asked every single US president. They all took advice and then went back with a polite "thanks, but no thanks".

You don't need to have access to super-secret intel to know going into this frivolous war was a very stupid idea. You just need to look at a standard map and use your brain.

Finally Mr Netanyahu found a stupid enough US president.

And the problem with the current US president is he won't accept a loss.

He is not the sort of person willing to accept he has bitten off more than he can chew.

Nor is he the sort of person who is willing to sit down and have a proper negotiated discussion. Infact he's the very person who just tore up the JPCOA seemingly just because he doesn't like Obama.

Nor is he the sort of person willing to learn from Iraq or Afghanistan.

So we have a stalemate. And a US president who doesn't believe in diplomacy, old-school politics or anything else.

And this stalemate is not one that is going to be resolved with more military firepower. Again, just look at the map....

TheOtherHobbesabout 14 hours ago
Not a stupid idea at all. The US oil corps are making massive profits.

It's at everyone else's expense, but so is everything else they do.

Ntrailsabout 15 hours ago
> And the problem with the current US president is he won't accept a loss.

At least he hasn't yet gone nuclear (metaphorically but also literally)

jonnybgoodabout 12 hours ago
> Remember this is a war that Iran has spent 40 years planning for.

So has the US. But as the saying goes: Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.

bluecalmabout 13 hours ago
>>You don't need to have access to super-secret intel to know going into this frivolous war was a very stupid idea. You just need to look at a standard map and use your brain.

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte disagrees with your assessment: https://x.com/clashreport/status/2102671513337856357

ketanmaheshwariabout 12 hours ago
> just look at the map

I have Google maps open on another tab. Could you clarify what should I be looking at?

telesillaabout 16 hours ago
I agree. My grandmother was not allowed to make decisions over her body, own a bank account, or work after marriage until the late 60s. For many of us, it's definitely a golden age of rights and possibilities.
greggsyabout 13 hours ago
I'm not Polish, and don't know much more than what's in this thread and in the post, but the world has changed a lot since the late 60's.

I'm not discounting the value of the good things you mention, but is there anything else to add to the 'golden age' description?

danfunkabout 12 hours ago
Visited Warsaw this summer. Beautiful city full of hope and energy. Can confirm Poland is in full blossom.
keiferskiabout 16 hours ago
Yeah I struggle to think of a time in the last three hundred years that Poland was in a better position than it is today. Maybe like 2019 or so? And that is basically still the same era.
Tade0about 15 hours ago
Yeah, we're new rich, but we're also old poor - the majority of millennials and the entire gen x have seen what a proper 3rd world country Poland was back in the 90s - that's the bulk of the current workforce. We've navigated worse crises.
xyzsparetimexyzabout 13 hours ago
> Iran is losing its grip on Hormuz

They are not, and this is a good thing long term.

jonytabout 13 hours ago
It absolutely is. And anything that's bad for a regime that just recently massacred tens of thousands of its own citizens is a net good.
Tade0about 17 hours ago
I feel like this is overdramatized a bit.

For instance: it's mentioned that EU gas storage is at 67% and Germany's at 56%.

What is not mentioned though is that Poland's storage is at 97% because the previous administration, for better or worse, was paranoid enough to invest in a sizeable marine gas terminal and the current one stocked up early.

Regarding real estate: adjusted for inflation prices peaked 2.5 years ago, interest rates are also much lower than back then. Nobody is buying because all the Ukrainian refugees who were moving to Poland are here already and that's the last bump in population this country will see for the foreseeable future.

Also there's the threat of war on Polish soil, which affects investor sentiment.

yzydserdabout 16 hours ago
Dramatised yes. Overdramatised no. This is a dramatic period of history.
ben_wabout 16 hours ago
Every period of history is dramatic; sometimes I rewatch old episodes of a UK satirical news quiz, Have I Got News For You, and even in the best of years there was plenty of drama.
nazgobabout 17 hours ago
It's 97% but total gas storage capacity it quite low so it's easier to fill.
Tade0about 16 hours ago
True, but other large EU members also did a better job replenishing their stores:

https://energiedashboard.admin.ch/gas/eu-gasspeicher

For instance, Italy has more storage capacity per capita despite very similar consumption (~10TWh/1mln population) and they're already at 86%+.

Meanwhile indeed Poland has much less storage (about a third of Germany per capita), but it also uses it less (half the consumption of Germany per capita).

I must ask: what the hell are the Germans waiting for?

Germanioumabout 17 hours ago
Humans are fragile.

Just because the numbers might be small if germany doesn't has enough gas and some old fragile human being might die of this or because they cant afford the gas, its still no way to die in a country like germany.

Grimetonabout 17 hours ago
Life is finite.
lifestyleguruabout 17 hours ago
Real estate in Poland is the only investment option without capital gains tax. You only have to keep it 5 years, extremely simple. A condo is tax free, risk free brokerage account. Even if drones start hitting these mostly empty buildings, the prices will keep rising.
altern8about 16 hours ago
I guess that's why houses are so expensive, now
alpinemanabout 17 hours ago
So it's overdramatised on the gas, but underdramatised on the war?
Tade0about 16 hours ago
The threat of war is largely in the minds of investors.

I don't know if Putin is crazy enough to chance it, but I wouldn't put it past him to do so.

But even then, Russia would need to mobilize hundreds of thousands of troops and that is not something you can pull off in a week, or even a month.

roenxiabout 18 hours ago
> Every generation believes it is living through the end of something.

Many generations are. Last century saw the collapse of the British and Soviet empires - titans by any measure - through mismanagement. Europe as an international power was also broken (compared to how they used to be). I can easily imagine 1900s me fleeing to America in fear of the end times and feeling quite justified in his choices with hindsight. Less obvious where to run to these days as the US not-an-empire looks like it may crumble.

Most of the people who died didn't get an opportunity to complain, so we live with some serious survivorship bias on how bad things got.

zdc1about 17 hours ago
While there's no magic land of opportunity to flee to, there are still many safe and stable places where one can raise a family and lead a simple life. Especially if you remove the abstraction of countries and look at cities and towns instead. It does depends on what you want and what you're willing to give however, as moving may mean learning a new language and assimilating a new culture. And then there's differences in wealth and earning potential as well, so I guess leaving the USA is more 'bugging out' than 'economic migration'.

OTOH, mobility is a privilege, and it's usually the least privileged who are the most affected by war. So I'm not exactly sure how I feel about my own advice, since it's most useful to those that need it least.

brntabout 17 hours ago
> mobility is a privilege

We made it a priviledge, but for a biological being, it's the most natural thing to do when you find yourself in a place that is shitty. There is a reason so many risk truly awful things to get a chance (chance!) at a better life: going to where food and safety is, is just what living beings do.

Maxionabout 18 hours ago
> Less obvious where to run to these days as the US not-an-empire looks like it may crumble.

Depending on what you're running for China is in some senses kinda what the US was back in the day, except there's no land so no easy way for them to accept migrants. These day and age migrants also aren't very accepted anywhere.

weinzierlabout 17 hours ago
I agree in a sense, and the writing for this has been on the wall for some time. In my circles, many learned some Mandarin at one point or another.

The difference from the past is that the US has always been a melting pot, while China is pretty much a closed society. If you’d emigrated to the US, you always had a good chance of blending into that diverse society no matter where you came from. Assimilating into the homogeneous Chinese society will take generations.

For me it’ll be either the westernmost end of Europe or one of the better parts of South America, in the hope that they will prosper modestly in the shadows of the upcoming conflicts.

vidarhabout 17 hours ago
China's population is dropping, so to the extent they had housing for their peak population, they will have increasing capacity to accept migrants. Their fertility rate has dropped to 1, one of the lowest in the world, despite having now lifted all restrictions on number of children and actively encouraging larger families, so it will become a precarious problem for them soon.

China's migration policies have been extremely strict, so to what extent they will be able to loosen that up without political upheaval is still an open question. So far they've only loosened up the restrictions on internal migration.

realharoabout 17 hours ago
China is facing many of the same problems that the rest of the world is, with demographic decline, slowing growth, etc.
neal_jonesabout 17 hours ago
I assumed there would be plenty of land in China, is just completely remote or do I just have a completely incorrect perspective on China (generally speaking I’m sure I do, I’ve live my life on the other side of the planet)
GlacierFoxabout 18 hours ago
There's no land in China?
pjc50about 17 hours ago
I also sometimes think how people don't realize how good they have things; while Poland is no longer a poor country, it would take an absolutely colossal disaster to reduce the average living standard of America to that of Poland. America hasn't even reached the 'terrifying' level of European petrol prices.

It also depends who you are. A very large fraction of American trans people (not a large absolute number, only a few hundred thousand) have moved from R states to D states recently due to repression, such as Kentucky revoking their driving licenses.

I do think the best political-economic era of my life was 1997-2001: election of Tony Blair until 9/11, covering the first internet boom. That was the closest to "world peace". That includes the Israel-Palestine peace process and the reconciliation of the post-Soviet states into Europe. If that had worked better, with a democratic Russia, the world would be a very different place today.

keiferskiabout 16 hours ago
I'm sure you can throw out statistics that prove otherwise, but I think the average living standard of Poland is already better than America. Again, anecdotally, but I'm American and I've lived in Poland for about a decade. Food, healthcare, housing, access to parks, public transport, etc. are all better quality here at the average-person level than most places the US.

Americans just end up paying for a lot of things that are either undesirable for many Poles (e.g., a huge McMansion in desolate suburbs and the car to drive there) or paid for via other means (e.g., healthcare.)

klausaabout 16 hours ago
I'll bite, even though I really shouldn't.

How do you define "average living standard", so that it would take a colossal disaster to have US reduced to that of Poland?

kakacikabout 14 hours ago
Petrol prices mean nothing for standards of living or overall desirability of given country. If that would be true, then I have 2 random samples which have supposedly way higher standard than US - Venezuela and russia.

US folks have more money on average, but are forced to spend them in ways ie europeans don't have to - top notch education and healthcare costs are huge in US for large part of population and compose big part of expected savings of parents and older folks, while an afterthought in Europe. How do you compare that.

Plus places in Europe like Switzerland have long term way higher living standards by any measure than even good places in US. Europe is big and diverse in ways US simply never was, it would do you good to travel the world a bit and see and experience it with your own eyes.

graemepabout 16 hours ago
Last century saw two world wars, followed by the cold war which could have lead to the end of the world. Also a wave of communist revolutions and their aftermath (famines and purges in the Soviet Union, The Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution, the death of a quarter of the population of the world).

I think mismanagement is not accurate. The Soviet system was flawed and inefficient and could not compete. The European empires were made untenable by the world moving on: economic, technological and political changes.

I think Europe and America had a golden age when they were at peace and dominated the world economically from the 80s to this century, and forgot neither of these is a given.

ericmayabout 13 hours ago
> Less obvious where to run to these days as the US not-an-empire looks like it may crumble.

How are you supposing that it looks like the US may crumble? I don’t understand where these kinds of comments come from, aside from perhaps verbalizing something one might want to see instead of what is factually true.

someonebaggyabout 12 hours ago
The world bought only 20% as many treasury bonds in the past year as in the year before that. This is what a slow decoupling from the US reserve currency looks like.

The US is the most oil-dependent country (although all western countries are quite dependent on it) and it cut off its own supply of oil.

The US has canceled all military guarantees and aligned with two different fascist states, so military cooperation is unwinding.

It's been unable to manufacture anything effectively for a while now as all the money gets siphoned off corruptly (identical to Russia in the Ukraine war), not even the weapons used in Israel.

What else is there to being an empire? Its nuclear aircraft carriers - with no aircraft since they run on oil?

jfabout 17 hours ago
This is one of the most cogent summarizations of the status quo that I've seen.

It leads nicely into a conclusion that, even without the preface, seems reasonable: build personal buffers of water, electricity, and cash.

zkmonabout 17 hours ago
Blame too much connectedness. Humans are not designed to be affected by things that happen 100's of miles away. They shouldn't even know the names or those far away places or people. They shouldn't have dependency on things that are produced far away.

Tribal populations lived isolated lives. Most of human life on Earth involved only small-sized settlements with occasional visitors from the far away places.

Connectedness opens the flood gates . You get inundated with news from every corner as if it is happening in you neighborhood and as if those are your people.

You are not designed for this.

teifererabout 17 hours ago
> You are not designed for this.

What a bizarre statement. Of course you are not designed for anything. You have adapted, genetically and socially. And you keep doing that. Modern society would collapse if change to a state of the world that you describe would quickly come. If it comes slowly, no matter what change, humans will adapt. Not all of that will be pleasant, but it eventually works out.

zkmonabout 16 hours ago
>> Modern society would collapse if change to a state of the world that you describe would quickly come.

That means the modern society is not sustainable and cannot adapt to long-term changes. It's like those cities, where all traffic and power supply would be affected for every rain. That's not adaptation. That's just living precariously on greed and assumptions.

The drastic changes, if any, themselves would be purely man-made, not like asteroids that killed dinosaurs. A proper evolution or adaptation would not have drastic changes. Changes would be gradual in synch with the pace of biological evolution.

teekertabout 17 hours ago
Connectedness also stops us from waging war. Or, I should say, it does not stop us, it makes us less likely to start one. But we still do it evidently. And then we all suffer.
tokioyoyoabout 16 hours ago
We have more wars right now than before.

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