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riettaabout 8 hours ago
Slightly off topic. I've had exactly one consulting engagement come from LinkedIn, back in 2013. Someone met with a VC, was told they needed a Ruby on Rails developer, found me, and it was off to the races. That was it. No lead since, in any format. I paid for Premium for a while and eventually stopped.

I have connections, and friends occasionally like a comment when I share something. I'm convinced LinkedIn demotes anything that links off-platform, even in the comments. That makes it really hard to share a good blog post.

Honestly, I get more engagement on Facebook. My mom and in-person friends find what I do slightly interesting, at least when the algorithm decides to show it. Same story there, though. Links to a blog get buried compared to native content.

jedbergabout 5 hours ago
> I'm convinced LinkedIn demotes anything that links off-platform

This has been proven, they absolutely penalize off site links. The workaround is to put it in the comments, which they do not demote (yet). But engagement still matters for appearing on feeds. If you're not saying something controversial, you probably won't get a lot of engagement.

kjs3about 6 hours ago
I'm convinced LinkedIn demotes anything that links off-platform

Interesting...why do you think that? I was on LI the other day and it struck me that probably half my feed was "look at this thing on this other site". Admittedly, the link was usually under the fold in the comments, which maybe is a cheat code to get around some real or perceived blockage? Not that any sort of user-hostile behavior from LI would surprise me, I just made a mental note of it at the time.

riettaabout 2 hours ago
I have not run a controlled study, but I have shared topics here on this website that made it to the front page quickly and had a lively comment section and on LinkedIn the same was had very limited impression numbers. I did an experiment with an ATLRUG announcement where I did not include the URL and the numbers were slightly higher than one that did, but still not great. I have connections on the platform with relevant interests but its not showing it to them.

One thing that has always hurt me is I have never once in my career been on the traditional job market. I was self employed as a teenager and have always just kept growing and pivoting and growing. I have never sought or taken a job via the normal market. LinkedIn has always been a bit of a odd place for that mode of work.

paimapiabout 6 hours ago
I got my current job (which I love and am being paid incredibly well for) by cold-firing a DM to someone at the company who I thought would be responsive who then put me down as a referral.

It's a whole song-and-dance, absolutely. The 'game' is to post enough (once/twice a week) with genuine, non-AI generated content to get your co-workers liking your posts and engaging. General, pro-social musings about layoffs, coworkers, job prospects, etc.

Recruiters started hitting me up fairly quickly after I started doing this even with my paltry engagement numbers (5k~ views per post) - half a dozen DMs a week for pretty decent roles in my city while I kept it up (and still a handful now after I stopped posting). And it also made my profile relatively 'attractive' for hiring managers, too, which is to say I didn't seem like a total sociopath with anger problems.

It helps that code-switching is pretty easy for me given my personal history so it doesn't feel like I'm somehow fundamentally betraying who I am by posting fluffy things on one social media platform. I imagine if you're more sensitive about your identity or how you engage socially, it can be very difficult to put any effort into your LI profile. If you've never had to put on a mask to fit in then the first wear can be very uncomfortable.

riettaabout 2 hours ago
Congratulations!

Yeah, in part my issue is recruiters are completely unaligned with my interests. Anytime I have ever replied that I am available for a corp-to-corp consulting contract the contact dies. They are only about placing people in full time employment, which has been an anathema to me because to do that I would have to turn my back on all my current clients and leave them high and dry. Growing the business has always been the better path for me.

kleiba2about 22 hours ago
I don't have a LinkedIn account and don't really care about it. The one thing, however, that bothers me to no end is all the many, many times when a LinkedIn page comes up near the top of the results to a Google query, then I click on it, and chances are I don't get to the actual information, but to the LinkedIn log-in page.

Not that I think that this is LinkedIn's fault, but I assume Google's rationale is that "everybody has a LinkedIn account" so it's fine to include result pages that cannot be accessed without one.

talkinabout 21 hours ago
> Not that I think that this is LinkedIn's fault

It is, they’re darkpatternmaxxing.

There used to be a time sites got punished if they treated searchbots differently..

giancarlostoroabout 9 hours ago
Anyone else does that and Google downgrades you, but LinkedIn and Pinterest do it, and Google keeps them at the top.
ozimabout 21 hours ago
LinkedIn was more open earlier I think they closed down much more. It seems that Google didn’t delist the profile pages.
micromacrofootabout 9 hours ago
Linkedin, reddit, instagram, pinterest, x, bluesky, threads, facebook... they provide a better experience to web crawlers than logged-out humans.
Telemakhosabout 8 hours ago
Does this suggest an opportunity (maybe a business opportunity) for a service that, by crawling and scraping paywalled sites, presents to the human user what bots get to see? What if this service could somehow correlate all the socials you mentioned in a single, less horrible user interface?
Modified3019about 22 hours ago
If you like, you can block it from coming up with an extension: https://github.com/iorate/ublacklist
kleiba2about 22 hours ago
The problem is really the unpredictability: some LinkedIn pages can apparently be accessed publicly without a login, others cannot. But perhaps that fact alone would be reason enough to block it entirely in Google searches?
kitdabout 21 hours ago
X is the same. "Check out what [politician/celeb] said on X!!" And it's the login page.

The answer is not to sign up to X, but to learn to suppress your FOMO. Chances are it was drivel anyway. Especially true for LinkedIn.

kshri24about 8 hours ago
Just replace x.com with nitter.cf
MisterMunchkinabout 22 hours ago
You guys are playing it wrong. You don’t larpmax in general, you do it to hit specific targets.

The person who decides my promotions follows me on LinkedIn. I never really see her except at the Christmas party etc, so the only way to influence her directly is through getting in her feed. If she regularly sees how great I am, that establishes the thought in her mind, so when she is then asked to promote me by other people, she’ll think it’s a good idea.

swinglockabout 9 hours ago
I didn't expect there would be a Christmas party in hell.
enopod_about 8 hours ago
Corporate christmas parties are the 2nd circle of hell
RealityVoidabout 7 hours ago
Yeah, hell seems like the kind of place that'd be into celebrating easter. (oh, I'm deff going to hell for this one)
johnnypangsabout 22 hours ago
Good on you for doing this and I hope you get promoted. But I can imagine a lot of people are like me and just don’t want to engage in office politics on or offline. Not that I don’t sometimes, but I’d much rather just work and be paid to do a job and live my life.
nyeahabout 9 hours ago
You do you. When I see someone posting on LinkedIn, my only thought is "Can I get away with unfollowing?"

I guess a few posts a year are ok if they don't sound angry or delusional. But zero is really best.

PaulHouleabout 8 hours ago
I use LinkedIn as another place to post my photos. My goal is to post 5 a day though sometimes I do more and sometimes I do less. I wouldn't really be doing it just to post to LinkedIn but since I am to posting 6 other social sites I am already doing all the work. The average visibility I get is atrocious but once in a while I get a hit and get 500+ views.

Nobody would accuse me of performative normality

https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-houle-a18809320/

Students at my Uni are still LIONs and will mostly accept my follow requests but other people in my town don't, I am gradually building up my network.

LinkedIn wants to reconnect me to my old friends in the knowledge graph industry but I could care less.

RevEngabout 9 hours ago
Is this for real? If so, that's a major institutional and managerial failing.
Quothlingabout 8 hours ago
What? It's how the job market works. It's like 90% connections and bullshit. I use GP somewhat similar to GP. Not as directly, but still targeted at helping my career. I've got a few people who write a lot of buzz that are also actually good for a couple of interesting comments back and forth. Once in a while they'll share someone new and I'll link up with them. This keeps you in the algorithm and it doesn't require you to be fake.

Then when something pisses me off at work I'll dig through my "hey this is a brilliant idea, I gotta write it down" ADHD notes I have in apples notes thing. I'll give it to an AI who will rewrite it to a load of crap that sounds way too professional to be something I would write. It will give me a great structure for the sections I want to write out of my crazy mess of a note. So I'll re-write every paragraph using basically none of what the AI output aside from the skeleton. Then I'll post it right before all the middle managers and c-levels take the train home on fridays. This will get me in right when they are LARPing on their linkedin.

Sometimes I'll get a tens of thousands of views. I've even had likes from one of the equity fund managers that owns the company that owns the company I work for. Those times I'll get some comments from the big bosses at the coffee machine or during lunch.

Maybe it's silly, but it works. At some point you'll also get enough followers or recognition or whatever it is they meassure you on that you'll start getting job offers from "real" people. I've had managers contact me directly for positions they were looking to fill. It've never actually gotten a job through linkedin though, but then again, all the jobs I've gotten after my first one has been through my real world network some of which have grown out of linkedin relationships.

I do wish the corporate larping platform our society has decided to use was decentralised though.

nkriscabout 7 hours ago
It is, and sometimes you can use those failings to your personal advantage.
micromacrofootabout 9 hours ago
That's just how life works, generally. People in power are largely social engineers of some variety.
s1monabout 6 hours ago
I love when people complain about X being in their feed on social media, and I see none of X. Do they not understand the basics of the algorithms? The more you engage with X, the more they show it to you.

That said, there's an insane amount of garbage self promotion on LinkedIn for individuals and companies which amount to your mom putting up your messy crayon drawing of you pet cat on the refrigerator as a kid. It's only impressive to you and your family, and it's not a remotely accurate picture of your cat.

d2kxabout 8 hours ago
My wife got into a car accident.

On a sunday.

I didn't go to the hospital.

I had a client, and a project.

Ready to go.

On a sunday.

You don't give up when life challenges you, you move faster.

Keep building [ROCKET EMOJI]

throwaway2037about 6 hours ago
Everytime I see shit like this on LinkedIn, I assume it is rage bait. Hat tip to the GOAT of LinkedIn trolls: Lumko Solwandle.

I cannot find his original post, but here is cross post: https://www.reddit.com/r/me_irl/comments/ve8iyw/me_irl/

    > Nobody:
    > LinkedIn Influencers:
    > Yesterday I was walking to an interview. There was a starving dog on the road. I stopped to feed him & missed the interview. The next day I got a call asking to come in to do the interview. I was surprised, but went. Then the interviewer came in. He was the dog.
upupupandawayabout 7 hours ago
LinkedIn plot twist: the client IS the wife.
ktallettabout 7 hours ago
Your wife and kids are holding you back. Your clients are your family now.

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