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buran771 day ago
> “An Interdisciplinary Synthesis Across Economics, Psychology, Biology, Philosophy, Game Theory, and Spiritual Tradition.”

If one were inclined, they could shorten the title to "AI Synthesis Across Economics, Psychology, Biology, Philosophy, Game Theory, and Spiritual Tradition." Maybe that's an Easter egg.

AI submissions, soon AI reviewers, and shortly after only AI readers.

The guy's name is "nosloP" spelled backwards. Maybe spelled normally it's supposed to signify the opposite.

jagged-chisel1 day ago
> The guy's name is "nosloP" spelled backwards. Maybe spelled normally it's supposed to signify the opposite.

Most insightful comment

mag72691 day ago
Yeah, he should publish this exquisite finding in the Journal of Human Shit That AI Would Not Produce
He be Spool'n
nico1 day ago
> AI submissions, soon AI reviewers, and shortly after only AI readers

This is already happening. Write code with an AI agent, agent creates PR, other agents review, coding agent iterates, PR gets merged, and hopefully real humans use the application and provide feedback

The latter step is also now staring to be replaced by AI (user directs agent to access app, get data, perform actions)

Similar thing with email

rurbanabout 18 hours ago
I filed a PR with bytedance for an AI vision project. The PR was written by AI, 4x reviewed by the github AI, and fixed by my AI. The PR review was by a Bytedance AI bot, and it looked pretty good. Let's see what my AI will answer today.
UncleMeatabout 12 hours ago
At least code has some sort of validation mechanism. The tests can pass or fail. The prod system can crash or not. There are plenty of limits here that make fully automated code deployment dangerous but it is still meaningfully different from text meant to communicate an idea.
nxobject1 day ago
And here I thought it was "Poison" with a typo...
EA-31671 day ago
https://www.pangram.com/history/51744f24-1896-4d5c-8bfc-786c...

It isn't even partially human written, it's just an LLM's output.

ofjcihen1 day ago
As much as I’m confident this reasercher is just a skinsuit for a slop machine I don’t exactly trust pangram. I’ve apparently been flagged for possible AI slop comments based on Pangram results before.

Oddly it seems to have happened on longer posts? Don’t know if that may play a part.

locallost1 day ago
That the name in no slop backwards is too wild to be real, but it's a real person.

I mean it's everywhere now. I complained already at my workplace multiple times, we get huge Claude generated documents, which people then ask Claude to summarize. I don't mind some of it in principle but people are too lazy now to input all the details so you get a bunch of fantasies that were explicitly ruled out already. It's tiring.

orwin1 day ago
I went to a "town hall" at my company last friday, the slides were all obviously AI-generated, the text was too, without anybody proofreading it.

How do i know? Because i doubt "Access&Identity will help us push forward the productivity of all collaborators" was what the team responsible for the prompt wanted to say.

superhuzza1 day ago
He is most definitely a real person, I know people who have written papers with him.
aeve890about 22 hours ago
>That the name in no slop backwards is too wild to be real, but it's a real person.

Reverse nominative determinism

gus_massa1 day ago
IIUC there are not 258 academic papers published in serious peer review journals [1], only 258 "preprints" in a free preprint server. It's like posting in WordPress but using a PDF instead of html [2]. I guess they start with "abstract" and end with "References" so they looks like papers.

For some weird reason in the last few years people forgot the differences and now any PDF is an "academic paper" [3]. (I'd be more annoyed, if the internal system of the university also forgot the difference. I'm afraid to ask.)

[1] Whatever "serious" means, that's a huge can of worms.

[2] They get an doi and a version number in case of a change.

[3] A few years ago they were call "whitepapers".

hangrybear6661 day ago
Vadim Sokolov, the co-author of the paper mentioned in the post defends this insane practice and says they reviewed at least one of the 258 generated papers with their own eyes, they are thus not fake papers.

Source: https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2026/08/27/258/#comme...

gus_massa1 day ago
IIUC he claims that most of them are just internal notes. In the research group I am, we generate a lot of crap. I'm not sure we reach one per day, but probably 3 per week, but we have some "productive" weeks from time to time.

Sometimes I just write an email (in text) but sometimes it's a short LaTeX document (3 pages, title, date, my name, may have an introduction to ensure we use the same notation, usually no references because I'm lazy). Some of my coworkers are using AI that likes to make longer stuff and format it like a letter to the Nobel foundation.

Some are good, most are wrong or bad. Some are reproductions of others research work, some are early experiments, some are rediscovering the wheel, some are misguided ideas, and lucky a tiny part are good. Anyway, they are for internal use, we don't try to contribute to the thermal death of the universe uploading that crap to a free preprint server.

I don't understand:

a) Why they upload internal notes/reports to a preprint server?

b) Why are these reported as "academic papers"?

lovich1 day ago
This is similar to when Elon claims to be running what, 4-5 different companies as a ceo, and taking care of his children, and sleeping 6 hours a day, and then we observe him shitposting on Twitter constantly or showing off his gaming skills in a game that is literally a time gated grindfest.

You add up all the claimed activities and then realize it’s more hours than are in a day so someone’s lying.

I don’t see how this author can claim that these papers didn’t “…suddenly materialize from a magical “chatbot” in 2026” when it’s obvious that 1-2 people are not producing 258 papers that are tens of pages each in 9 months with any sort of academic rigor.

stymaar1 day ago
> showing off his gaming skills in a game that is literally a time gated grindfest.

What was even more hilarious was the fact that he had visibly no idea of what the game was even about (he was bragging about item level instead of stat and dismissing the best item of his gear because it was lower iLevel than the rest).

mlmonkey1 day ago
Question is: what was Polson's typical output rate before ChatGPT appeared?
tobias20141 day ago
Why would someone ruin their academic credentials and reputation (at a reputable university) like this? Maybe there was nothing to begin with? Otherwise I can't understand this.
Lerc1 day ago
I think it might be taking a position in the use of AI, They don't appear to be concealing their use.

If the papers were of a uniformly high standard then I might not have a problem with it.

If they are hoping some of them are good and the review process will filter out the bad then it seems like they are not doing research, they are writing hypotheses and at pushing the work of testing them onto the reviewers.

I could also see that being done to make some sort of statement about the review process, but it's not clear if that is their goal.

He's wasting people's time, which is already the resource that many people lack any to spare. I'm not sure if he realises this part.

SecretDreams1 day ago
Could probably write a real research paper based on the acceptance outcomes of all of these LLM written papers.
stymaar1 day ago
This is economics though, a discipline where you be like Kenneth Rogoff and Carmen Reinhart and commit the most impactful fraud of the century and face absolutely no consequence on your career.

When you compare that to the consequence of the hydroxycholoquine paper, which is comparable in public policy impact, where Didiee Raoult lost all its legitimacy and his job, it's easy to see that economics as an academic field doesn't value probity much.

augment_me1 day ago
It's incentivized by the system. You get grants, clout, importance, job opportunities based on your publishing in major conferences. As of last year, the variance of review scores have been higher between reviewers on the same paper than between the same reviewer on different paper. So it's effectively become a coinflip. The best strategy when it's random is just to spam stuff.

Oh also at least 40% generated peer-reviews are contributing to this statistic.

hunterpayne1 day ago
Because they won't. The various algorithms that create the "publish or perish" incentives actually reward this. Academic reputation isn't a term in those algorithms, so it isn't rewarded. Same for verifying other's papers and other parts of science and research that aren't actually publishing papers. This is the cause of the reproducibility crisis in academic.

"Show me the incentives and I will show you the outcome"

jltsiren1 day ago
Reputation is a factor, because most processes involve a subjective evaluation by other experts in the field. And non-experts use service activities such as peer review as a proxy for reputation. If reputable entities use your services as an expert, you are probably a reputable expert in the field.
jazzpush21 day ago
Not surprising. Many academics held in high-esteem in these behavioral offshoots are nothing more than frauds to begin with. Almost every X-studies paper is equally fluff these days (see the recent frontpage CHI post) - at least these have some semblance of theory given their equations, though are still largely garbage.
Writing is a technology that served us well for over 5000 years, but now times are a changing. Written media will cease to provide any value in the next decade i think. In person chats/Public speaking will be revered again.

Edit - people are assuming that i want this to happen. no, i don't. i am reading more than i ever did before, maybe out of rebellion. i am just stating what I THINK is to come. it might not go this way at all.

tomjakubowski1 day ago
One of the most memorable tech talks I ever attended was by a junior engineer who had just come back to the office from a major conference. Our workplace had an unusually oral culture -- decisions were made in meetings, and not always written down; there wasn't much in the way of bug tracking or work planning at the time; people generally preferred to talk through problems instead of working them out in email, chat, or forum posting.

He was supposed to present a topic he learned about at the conference. Instead, he gave a cheeky talk which introduced the very concept of written language to the audience, as if we had never heard of it. Starting from the history of writing on tablets and so on, and ending in practical advice like, "when words are written down, you don't have to remember what they were exactly; you can just read the words again." I loved the chutzpah and could barely hold myself from chortling out loudly at some of his slides.

raddan1 day ago
I know that your post is an amusing take on communication, but I find the post you responded to be kind of a horrifying idea. Until recently, writing was like a time machine: somebody, from almost at any time in human history, wanted to tell you something. By writing it down in a common language, you could read what they wanted to say. Writing is flipping amazing.

There has always been bad writing, but historically it has been easy enough to filter the garbage out. Now we get garbage that looks so much like real thoughts that it's hard to tell. This is not a positive development. Separating the wheat from the chaff is extra work, and the overhead is a burden on humanity. I suspect that this is a burden that almost nobody actually wants, but we're getting it anyway.

bijowo16761 day ago
its not even writing, its the very concept of human thinking that is under question.

Why should anyone bother to think, if they can ask AI for a well researched, correct, and.. khm... "aligned" answer ?

We will be worse off for it. People just are losing the ability to read well. We are regressing as a species because of billionaire's thinking machines. A few companies are evolving while the rest of us become dependent.

Your intelligence and competencey are going to be 1:1 correlated to the quality and quantity of tokens a billionaire gives you access too (local, sure, they control the hardware markets as well).

Keep excercising your writing and reading muscles because it will definatley set you apart from the captive masses in the future.

nottorp1 day ago
> People just are losing the ability to read well.

I wouldn't blame "AI" for that, TV and Youtube and Tiktok did a good enough job.

kzrdude1 day ago
Speaking is a culture that has served us well for 300 000 years or so. To note, it has been used for both good and bad..
yurishabout 16 hours ago
Speaking did not create civilization.
right.

but i am making the case of in-person chat or public speaking, where in-person and public are the relevant parts.

sho_hn1 day ago
I honestly think it's more likely that younger generations grow up seeing the ill effects of being AI-pilled for communication/writing, deciding by way of AI literacy that they want none of that, and develop better ideas on responsible use.

I really don't like AI for document writing as a whole, especially within organizations. Code can be a form of communication, but for the most part it's an engineered thing that can be re-run, tested, verified and so on. But documents drive decision-making, and decision making is often one-time. Decisions should be studied and understood, and depriving authors of much of both is not having any good effects.

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