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azuanrb1 day ago
So many negative comments here. Among my circle, it’s not uncommon for people to have multiple $200 accounts. This seems like it would make things easier for them by letting them use one account instead of juggling two or more.

What they’re doing with billions of tokens every week, beats me. But these users absolutely do exist.

alasano1 day ago
What do you mean? It's the fact that previously the 20x plan cost $200 (and is 10x now) and now 25x is $500.

If it was a 50x $500 plan it would be a different story.

bezier-curve1 day ago
For less than the cost of this plan, you can get ChatGPT Pro 200, Claude Max 5x, and Kimi Code. At least that's what I'm doing, and the model diversity does help with adversarial code review loops.
robertlagrantabout 16 hours ago
> What they’re doing with billions of tokens every week, beats me. But these users absolutely do exist.

I think you can just become slightly careless and off it goes. I just have a £20/mo ChatGPT and I'm getting it to do some HomeLab Kubernetes YAML for me that I have no desire to hand-type. I asked it a question and it zoomed off looking at all sorts of websites, running various git commands, doing anything except asking me for an answer to a question.

It ran through about 60% of my 5-hour allocation in those few minutes, which was an unheard-of rate for me before that, and I can imagine if I had zillions of tokens available I just wouldn't have noticed. As it is, my AGENTS.md now exists and is fairly stern.

wordpadabout 1 hour ago
Latest models have a much better sense of time and token budget, so if you instruct it for a quick answer or to not burn many tokens it will try to respect that
kittoes1 day ago
Can you please explain to me how the announcement is anything but a negative? Especially for such power users. That same 200$ plan now allows for half the usage it did when I subscribed a couple weeks ago. Tibo and co can dress this pig up however they want, it's still less usage than I bargained for.
Keyframe1 day ago
Seems like can still do the same, but for multiple $500 because it awfully smells like ye olde $200 one.
jbfromkcabout 21 hours ago
Yeah… i have multiple $200 Claude accounts and a supergrok heavy account and also a max $500. The max $500 was a new addition today, but i have my whole company basically wired and ran by ai with a central HQ setup. While the $1k month price is high, that $1k gives me the equivalent of a full dev team working 24/7. Pretty soon we’ll need more horsepower and will move to a model like kimi 3 or local hosting our own model. Thats something i still have to learn more about. But yeah, build a system where you can swap any model or ai platform in and out easily
nixgeekabout 20 hours ago
If it's $1000 per month on subscriptions to make $1M in revenue and that's your full development team working 24x7; good deal.

If it's $1000 per month to make $0 because you haven't found PMF, less obviously a good deal unless you have a pathway to revenue?

Natfanabout 15 hours ago
... why? what could you possibly be building that requires that much subsidized token spend?
solfox1 day ago
It's actually insane how often I switch between Anthropic and Codex subscriptions. The experience on these platforms is a bit like riding a roller coaster.
ChatGPT Plus: 1x usage, $20

Pro 100: 5x usage, $100

Pro 200: 10x usage, $200 (previously was 20x usage, $200)

Pro 500: 25x usage, $500

So, essentially scaling is equal. You get the same amount of usage from 25 ChatGPT Pro accounts as you do from one Pro 500 account.

It's fair, but a big of a rug pull considering how good of a deal Pro 200 was.

matt_heimerabout 11 hours ago
I stayed with the 200 plan because of how good a deal it was and because it didn't scale equally.

Now it makes more sense to get 100 plans from both Claude and ChatGPT plan to get diverse models.

It's like OpenAI wants me to give them less money or they are constrained on compute and need to shed load.

votepaunchyabout 8 hours ago
I don’t think it’s the individual with a single account that precipitated this change, it’s the users with many, many 20x accounts. Anthropic is less clear on their limits, but they have never given bonus usage, so again OpenAI is the late follower (as with adding a 5x plan).
qingcharles1 day ago
I think the bottom one is called "Plus", right? I get that confused too.
I think you're right
bhelkey1 day ago
> See the pricing page for a comparison of the features and usage included in each plan.

Does anyone see the usage limits? I don't see anything indicating how much usage is in each tier.

I checked:

* https://chatgpt.com/pricing/

* https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9793128-about-chatgpt-pr...

* https://chatgpt.com/#pricing (signed in plan upgrade page)

mstaoru1 day ago
These days it's all like "$200 plan has more usage than $100 plan" and "$500 plan has even more usage".
thimabi1 day ago
It’s about time for some laws against unpredictable pricing like that.
Aeolun1 day ago
GLM has actual usage indicated on their website. From what I can see it is accurate.
93po1 day ago
It took me a while to figure this out too and only did in the last couple days: a 10x, 20x, or 25x plan is the cost of your monthly sub times that multiplier in terms of API costs.

So a 20x plan, that was formerly $200, would have been $4000 in API credits. Which sounds like a lot but the API is absolutely horrendously expensive - like you'll burn through $100 in 45 minutes of 5.6 Sol on High reasoning. I know this because I did this once.

bhelkey1 day ago
Do you see the terms, "10x", "20x", or "25x"? If so, where?

I don't see any of those terms. Not even on the signed in page to upgrade to to a different Pro plan.

The plans I see are labeled, "Pro 100", "Pro 200", and "Pro 500" with the number corresponding to the price in USD.

notfried1 day ago
They also said this in the email announcement I got:

> As a thank you for being an existing subscriber and to help you continue to build your most ambitious ideas and transition, we’re also giving you a one-time grant of 62,500 usage credits (a $2,500 USD value). You’ll see these appear in Settings > Usage. They will expire on December 31, 2026, and use of the credits is governed by the Service Credit Terms.

I have no idea how much 62,500 usage credits are. Given the value they suggest I feel it's like one extra week of usage.

watusername1 day ago
> Given the value they suggest I feel it's like one extra week of usage.

With how many resets they've been giving out lately, if you consistently max things out I would say this is a reasonable guess. You can ask your clanker via your favorite harness (the usage credits are equivalent to API pricing):

> Based on my session files and official OpenAI API pricing, check how much I would have spent in the past few months if I switched to the OpenAI API.

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