The earth's climate is accumulating 4 Hiroshima atomic bombs worth of heat every second.

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voxic111 day ago
To heat all the water in all the Earth's oceans by 1 degree Celsius it would require the energy equivalent of the detonation of roughly 87 billion Hiroshima-sized atomic bombs.
altcognito1 day ago
On the front page the counter is up to nearly 4 billion since 1998. The real problem is that we continue to do things to accelerate this, and as we all know, humans are terrible with exponentials.
t0bia_s1 day ago
How do you know? Btw, about 8 (1) times more people die because of cold than heat. Isn't rising temperature good for humanity?

(1): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48524696

iamgopal1 day ago
Just ~250000 years ( in atmospheric absorption rate )
treyd1 day ago
This is a dishonest comparison. The atmosphere warming has a much more immediate impact and the ocean isn't a perfect heat sink.

Air has a specific heat (~1) less than a quarter per unit mass than water (~4.1). The atmosphere has a mass of ~5 billion kgs and the ocean has a mass of ~1.4*10^21 kgs.

It requires a lot less trapped energy to warm the atmosphere by 1 C than the ocean. We're well on track for 2.5 C increase since preindustrial levels.

isthatafact1 day ago
and yet the ocean surface is already at roughly +1 degree Celsius.

As long as we are doing absolutely useless comparisons of enormous numbers that could potentially be used as disinformation to vastly understate the impact of global warming: To heat the entire planet Earth down to the core by 1 degree Celsius would require the energy equivalent of (~order of magnitude) 1 quadrillion Hiroshima-sized atomic bombs.

conartist61 day ago
If we're trying to give perspective, may as well leave it to the master: https://xkcd.com/1732/
I guess that demonstrates the concept of “a drop in the ocean”, but turning a massacre of civilians into a unit of energy feels crass at best.
ygjb1 day ago
To be completely blunt, the humanitarian crisis being caused by runaway fossil fuel use is tantamount to massacre of civilians.

The death toll from Hiroshima was between 90-160 thousand people. The amount of excess deaths due to heat waves in 2023 was around 178,000. There are projections that the El Nino related heat waves could cause up to half a million, and longer term projections grow to 300,000 a year just from heat in the next few years. Just from heat.

Add in crop failure, ecosystem collapses, and other unexpected disasters, and it's easy to see why.

It might be crass, but it's mostly poor people and poor countries that are going to be affected.

timr1 day ago
> The amount of excess deaths due to heat waves in 2023 was around 178,000. There are projections that the El Nino related heat waves could cause up to half a million, and longer term projections grow to 300,000 a year just from heat in the next few years. Just from heat.

Scary.

On a related note, annual deaths from extreme cold are estimated at over 4 million per year.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S254251962...

(Note: I picked this article specifically because it’s written by people who are desperately trying to find a way to make the heat story sound worse, but still have to admit that the facts are the facts.)

ch4s31 day ago
You're referencing this study[1] ,which is a modeling study, not observational data and it attributes only half of that number to climate change. It also includes this strong caveat:

"Due to data limitations, adaptation indicators such as access to air conditioning and healthcare resources were not included, and GDP per capita was used as a proxy."

I'm sure this analysis is directionally right, but it's not defensible to use the 178,000 number. Moreover extrapolating out into the future based on such an analysis seem fraught at best.

[1]https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7618246/

captainbland1 day ago
Yeah but opponents of green measures want us to treat climate change related deaths like car deaths, just background noise which can somehow be boiled down to some tragic responsibility failure which is worth the price.
prodigycorp1 day ago
This is disrespectful to the people of hiroshima who had to walk ankle deep through blood and bone just to find their family
scottLobster1 day ago
In your experience, how do people typically respond to crassness? That's how they'll respond to your argument.

To be completely blunt, fuck your bluntness. You clearly don't care about climate change all that much if you aren't willing to even attempt effective messaging. Go do your revolutionary cosplay with some lesser topic

scarecrowbob1 day ago
I understand that the party line in the US is that the quality of life engendered by the ecocide of the earth makes up for the mass death that anthropogeenic climate change entails.

At the same time, I have a hard time thinking that the destruction of the environment is either necessary or natural. So the death caused by climate change also seems like a particular kind of massacre.

Where I was raised, it was a commonplace to think of the firebombings and nuclear incineration of vast amounts of civilian populations as regrettable but necessary and perhaps even a natural outcome of technological growth.

I hadn't really considered that position until your comment, but my rejoinder would be "perhaps the comparison is unfortunately apt and it is crass to ignore the death caused by climate change."

mikewarot1 day ago
The short term solution to this problem may be to burn gigatons of liquid sodium in the exhaust of jet engines in the stratosphere.[1]

If you burn liquid sodium in steam, you end up with sodium bicarbonate particulate of just about the right size to offset global warming.[2]

[1] https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20250000498/downloads/Re...

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST49jDo4d-Q

MadrasTh0rn1 day ago
I don't know about you guys but I'm feeling it
meisel1 day ago
What is the conversion to Nagasakis
swader9991 day ago
About 3/s

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