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dang2 days ago
Related. Others?

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1vuio0pswjnm71 day ago
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comrade12343 days ago
I have property in zone 4a. It's in WI about thirty minutes south of Lake Superior. I had read that they have pawpaw at UW Madison so I bought five seedlings as an experiment. The first year two survived the winter. The next year one of them was hit by a mower and died. The survivor is still alive after five years.

Pawpaw reproduce sexually so this year I bought five more plants from a farm in Michigan. These were older than seedlings and not cheap. Anything to wed my lone pawpaw.

Ilk know in the spring if any survived the winter.

ta9882 days ago
I am surprised it died with the mower, I had one snapped in half, put the up part in the soil, now two pawpaws...
pvaldes3 days ago
The seedlings can be disappointing. Pawpaw is a lot like peppers. Selected cultivars are good, but wild ones can be awful. I strongly advice to plant certified cultivars of your preferred flavor. My Shenandoah has a lot of banana mixed with caramel and the texture reminds to a lemon mousse that does not taste at all like a lemon. Also wait for them to be really ripe but not overripe (The flavor spoils). The fruits fall when are ripe and then is a speed race with slugs, coons and squirrels.

It needs water and grows well were hazelnuts also grow. Take advantage also of the relatively brief but good butter yellow fall color placing for example some chokeberries (melanocarpa Viking for fruit, arbutifolia Brilliant for red color), or a Japanese maple like Seiryu fast grower vertically providing a decent canopy, rusty fall color and great under spring lights, Hogyoku or Emmet's Pumpkin have great oranges and reds in fall and a decent sized leaf that unlike Seyriu will not dissappear around the huge leaves of the paw paw but is a question of personal taste. Put each tree well spaced but close enough to be seen as one scene and plan in advance as this trees don't like at all to be moved later.

Paw paws grow happy under canopy, specially for its first years, but produce much better at full sun (flies don't like shadow). Can be hand pollinated in any case.

kulahan2 days ago
This is great info. I've wanted to grow some for years, but I live in CO, and won't be moving to a region where these are viable for a few years yet, so I've got plenty of time to plan. I had no idea there even were cultivars for this fruit, but I was aware they like to start in shade, then explode once started.

In the Southwest, there are many environments where a tall, shady plant grows quickly, sets the stage for plants that need only initial shade, and then the fast-grower eventually loses out on the plot once the slower-growers have a chance to establish themselves. Once those slow growers are in place, a new generation of smaller, shade-loving plants will often follow, filling in the area that the fast-growers left.

I wonder if there are analogues you're meant to plant first, to get the pawpaw going.

tomcam2 days ago
Can’t grow them here in Seattle. Keep trying and failing.
PeterHolzwarth2 days ago
Maybe don't over do frequent eating of the fruit and others from its family:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimina_triloba#Potential_toxi...

amelius2 days ago
Yikes!
n2dasun2 days ago
I have 3 trees. I highly recommend the KSU Atwood, which is bred for its particular flavor and high output. We live in Virginia and a cold front killed a bunch of the young fruit about a week after we pollinate the trees, and we still got around 50 decently-sized pawpaws from that tree
AndrewKemendo2 days ago
I’m in VA too and have been thinking of putting them in

I have peach trees going into second winter and they will likely fruit next year and are way more work to train than I want in the future.

How much labor are they for the yield and any major downsides?

n2dasun1 day ago
The Atwood is i got was grafted, so it grew easier than any of the other trees I have. I basically bought each of them at the 1 - 3 gallon range, wrapped them in burlap and plastic the first 2 winters to keep the snow from killing them, and just made sure to water them well, but not overwater. I used transplant fertilizer the first year, but not since. I think the first time I got any to fruit was 3 - 4 years after planting them. I dont consider them labor intensive at all, personally
BugsJustFindMe3 days ago
Searched the article for "annonacin", "neurotoxin", and "atypical parkinsonism" and came up short. Warning about skin and seeds being generically toxic kinda buried at the end.

Anyway, I had some recently that showed up at my local co-op. The texture was nice, but the flavor was...fine? Certainly nothing magical.

Nutrition Facts says not to eat them: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/do-not-eat-pawpaws/

cdurth3 days ago
The magic is a tropical tasting fruit! I have a tree and it's tough to actually get one of the fruits when they are ripe. This year I got lucky with a few that feel into my fenced garden section and I got them before the critters.
emmelaich2 days ago
There's a hint of rottenness to the scent -- even vomit to some. Maybe like Durian.
pvaldes3 days ago
If this worries you, can try the cultivar Wells, selected by its low level of acetogenins.

Wild paw paws with high levels of acetogenins announce it, with horrible flavor. The domestic fruits are selected against. A correct amount adds a lot of complexity to the flavor, so can be desirable in a fruit that you eat just a month at year. I bet that you never worry about the fact that your potatoes have a little bit of solanin after all.

margalabargala2 days ago
> I bet that you never worry about the fact that your potatoes have a little bit of solanin after all

In fairness, solanine is purely an acute poison, while annonacin has cumulative effects. Not that the compound itself bioaccumulates but the damage it causes does.

If you already have any parkinsons symptoms whatsoever, pawpaw amounts greater than 0.2 fruits per year have been shown to worsen them.

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