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walrus014 days ago
I think a more important question is whether Yemen still exists as as single coherent political entity with the same borders as seen on ANY of those maps, which given the present situation, it clearly does not.

edit: map here https://understandingwar.org/research/middle-east/iran-updat...

and here: https://yemen.liveuamap.com/

em-bee4 days ago
this was posted on 27. of november 2024. on the 3rd of december someone found a correct looking number in a yemen government document which was published in 2005 and updated wikipedia. so at least the country itself was not under any illusion of being bigger than they actually are.
lopis4 days ago
Ah I'm glad. That's much better than the solution I had in mind of using the sand from the desert to expand the land into the sea to add extra 100k km of land area, to hide all this embarrassment under the rug.
pseudohadamard3 days ago
That would have to be a pretty big rug. I actually know some rug merchants in New York who are having a going-out-of-business sale who might be able to help.
slyall2 days ago
The author was one of the people involved in the wikipedia discussion

They knew the figure was wrong but needed a document with the correct figure they could reference.

em-beeabout 22 hours ago
i figured there was some connection, but i didn't expect the author to be involved because i would have expected that they update the article and mention that they found a document and fixed wikipedia.
burlesona4 days ago
What I wonder is why anyone noticed this in the first place. Who saw the size of the country in Wikipedia and thought, “really? Let me trace that in Google maps, just to be sure…”
t-34 days ago
I actually measured the size of (parts of) Yemen on maps a week or two ago, trying to figure out the population density of the Houthi-controlled areas, which contain the majority (~70-80%, hard to say exactly as the population distribution has been changing rapidly in the past decade) of Yemen's population in about 1/3 of it's land.
edoceo4 days ago
Something about eyeballs and all bugs being shallow...
kqr4 days ago
This reminds me of what Deming used to say: there is no correct value for any measurement, there are only the outcomes of methods chosen to measure something.
Aerroon4 days ago
I did not expect this to just be a simple mistake, especially one that's been around for decades. Makes you wonder what other kind of basic facts are wrong.

In the age of satellites, computers, Google maps and the like you would think a mistake like this would be impossible to persist for so long.

wmf4 days ago
A bunch of countries are suspected of undercounting their population because so many people are living "off the grid" or deliberately overcounting to get more funding. Probably some of the cases are real and some are just conspiracy theories.
kqr4 days ago
Imagine how much of published science is statistically significant only due to clerical errors and mistakes in calculation...

(See e.g. The misreporting of statistical results in psychology journals; Bakker, Wicherts; Behaviour Research Methods; 2011.)

AlotOfReading4 days ago
These kinds of issues have existed since the first human started recording what they owned, and will probably continue plaguing us until the last one dies.
vijayr024 days ago
No - only till the second last one dies.

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