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seemaze4 days ago
Excalidraw offers their own open source first party MCP endpoint[0] and server[1]:

[0]https://mcp.excalidraw.com

[1]https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw-mcp

eshack944 days ago
Oddly, it seems like it hasn't been touched in 6 months (and last release 7 months ago). I wonder if it's been abandoned, or simply deprioritized in favor of other work.
kamranjon4 days ago
Is the excalidraw api constantly changing?
armanj4 days ago
I've had a fairly thorough exploration of how I can give my agent a whiteboard so we can work on architectures together. To my surprise, current solutions (including Excalidraw) were not good enough and didn't deliver what I wanted. I ended up finding Mermaid to be the most agent-friendly medium and coded an Obsidian plugin for it. It works okay; we can work on the same doc while I bring my own AI agent, and we can brainstorm together. https://community.obsidian.md/plugins/mermaid-relay
mncharity4 days ago
Show HN: Reladraw – A diagram language where you decide where to place things[1], which adds relative placement constraints, and provides agent skills. Nearby on the front page just now, fwiw.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49858513

jmtulloss4 days ago
Did you play with TLDraw at all? I’ve had some success with it but haven’t been using it for that particular use case.
armanj4 days ago
i found it a bit later than others and didn't really explored it deep; but yeah still couldn't find what i was looking for out of the box
4ndrewl4 days ago
YMMV, but the value I get from producing a diagram is derived from the thinking. Thinking about what I'm trying to draw leads to understanding about where my/my team's knowledge is poorer, what assumptions we're making, etc.
augment_me4 days ago
I found a big part of the appeal with tools such as Excalidraw is that people are still more willing to engage with your content because they think that its made by hand.

Compare a piss-tinted LLM-generated diagram with 80 pipes, flows and generic names everywhere to a seemingly hand-drawn sketch.

I have had my Exaclidraw connected to an agent through their MCP and I have gotten way more attention/time/reads on both blogs and papers because of the illusion of being human-made/hand-drawne making it more palatable.

msy4 days ago
‘I found a new way of wasting people’s time with my slop’ god this is bleak.
johongo4 days ago
I don't remember who said it, but someone mentioned that mathematics papers don't read well because the models don't know which parts to emphasize and which parts to gloss over. I would imagine similar tendencies here.
parasitid4 days ago
the whole idea is that, as i'm very bad a making good drawings by hand, here i can sketch them in a quick and ugly manner and get them instanlty properly arranged and iterate: https://tangled.org/yanndegat.tngl.sh/drawgent/raw/main/docs...
sbarre4 days ago
Yeah I tend to make my diagrams either as I go, as exploration, or after I'm done figuring things out as a summarizing artifact (and agents are great at using Mermaid to do that second one).
qudat4 days ago
Yes I agree! Drawing helps me think.
brumar4 days ago
This is crazy. My claude chess stuff is (edit: was) currently near yours on the front page and noticed your post. I have a project very close than yours that I hesitated to share. From a quick glance, we went for a similar approach. I just open sourced it so that you can compare implementation notes. https://github.com/brumar/whiteboard-agents . It's not thoroughly tested but can be interesting to check.
bad_haircut724 days ago
Posted this somewhere else aswell but I've had good success with https://whiteboard-mcp.com - it seems to work better than other free alternatives for things like architecture diagram creation

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