Scientists engineered roses that made both a blue pigment and a colorless helper molecule that brought out its shade.

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kaonwarb4 days ago
Source article is better, and refers to them as “violet-blue roses” https://www.suntory.com/sic/story/20260911/
NetMageSCW3 days ago
Seems like they need to remove any of the Red genes?
Suppaflyabout 23 hours ago
No matter how many times this gets reposted, which seems like several times a year for the last few years, no they haven't figured out how to make a true blue rose.
rbanffy4 days ago
I think it’s interesting they noted the flowers stopped making the new pigment in the wild after 3 years - is it a genetic treatment that requires repeated intervention to maintain the effect?

I’m also guessing the new genes don’t propagate to the seeds as well, so that they can have a steady demand for their special flowers.

equinoxnemesis4 days ago
No, the trial was only conducted for three years, presumably because that's how long they budgeted. I don't think they actually stopped producing blue flowers at that point.
applicative3 days ago
I think it's certain the seeds will not 'come true' -- the story suggests they spliced a little something in from every known blue flower -- gentian, delphinium, campanula etc etc Don't know for sure but feel: good luck hitting all the keys with recombination! Once they have a plant they like with all their gene-splicing tech, there would be as many ways of propagating as with e.g. named apple varieties'.

My impression from other stories is that they are certainly preparing commercial release, they just stopped the experiment (somehow there is scientific involvement see https://pub.confit.atlas.jp/en/event/ihc2026/presentation/S1...). They had an earlier 'blue' rose var "Applause" - which in the photos does not come close to this strange one https://www.suntoryapplause.com It was apparently used only by commercial growers for superfancy florists.

Blue or blue-tending flowers photograph really badly, on Kodachrome as on the internet, so nothing is to be really credited til you see it in life. If you type 'heavenly blue morning glory' in the browser you will see faked images - the real thing is nevertheless perfectly astonishing.

In general a blue effect, like the Heavenly Blue or the astounding mecanopsis, Himalayan poppy - once seen, never forgotten, in USA grown in Pacific NW only - involves more than just pigment but other ancillary curiosa like ferric ions trapping unfriendly wavelengths. The gene splicing was from several 'blue' flowers, but in some cases, if I follow, they were targeting these ancillaries, not the pigment.

m0llusk3 days ago
Could also be at least in part an epigenetic effect where the gene remains but is deactivated or strongly down regulated.
adzm3 days ago
This is why hybrids need to be re-bred with themselves many many generations in order to stabilize the phenotype. The genetic info may still be there but not expressing itself
rmnclmnt4 days ago
« Hey Coop’! I guess Blue Roses occur in nature now! »

« Damn good news, Gordon! »

zhainya3 days ago
Research provided by Project Blue Book.
kkhs3 days ago
Amazing! My first thoughts exactly!
colechristensen3 days ago
Similar story about "blue" orchids

https://youtu.be/EPvdX1GfWhA?is=5JySN1BEZI83Zbnr

dd8601fn2 days ago
Tangential, but I wonder why the trend of holding a lav out in front of the speaker became a thing. It seems like a weird youtuber gimmick.
Sound quality speaking directly into the mic and potentially better ability to filter environmental noise.

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