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ShinyLeftPad6 days ago
I never saw where he claimed to be a professor and hedge fund manager, I just thought he used to work/teach and now makes entertaining videos.

Also as far as I remember (I wasn't yet watching back in 2020 so no comment on that part) it's pretty clear what he bases videos on, he specifically mentions the whatever FT article or book and I expect his script quotes a lot from them. I watch(listen) anyway because it's fun, easy to understand for laypeople and I'm not subscribing to FT/not buying a book anyway... Don't think I'll stop because of this

throw0101a5 days ago
> I never saw where he claimed to be a professor and hedge fund manager, I just thought he used to work/teach and now makes entertaining videos.

From his uni bio:

> Patrick Boyle is a Visiting Professor of Finance at Queen Mary University of London in the School of Economics and Finance. He has taught at Queen Mary University since 2009. Patrick teaches the Financial Derivatives and Portfolio Management Classes to Master’s in Finance Students.

> Patrick Boyle is a Founding Partner at Palomar Capital Management, a quantitative Hedge Fund. Patrick began his finance career in 1997 and has worked with Victor Niederhoffer, a former partner of George Soros' and has been a Portfolio Manager at RBS, Millennium and Nomura.

[…]

* https://www.qmul.ac.uk/sef/staff/patrickboyle.html

So the university itself vouches for the academic side of things, and the UK business registry has a "BOYLE, Patrick" for Palomar Capital Management (resigned as of 2018):

* https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/c...

ShinyLeftPad5 days ago
sure. I just don't have a habit of background checking entertainers. to me if he was a genius fund manager would he be making youtube videos? no.

and i don't remember him claiming it in a video.

blobbers5 days ago
Glad you support someone who shows a shocking lack of integrity, and is selling textbooks from Wikipedia while claiming intellectual thought.

May want to let that marinate.

surgical_fire5 days ago
> Glad you support someone who shows a shocking lack of integrity

My brother in Christ, you are posting in a forum associated to VC.

rwz5 days ago
I watch YT videos for entertaining presentation and packaging, not for original groundbreaking research.

I don't care if he reads a Forbes article verbatim, so long as I find it funny and can watch it on my TV while eating lunch sitting on my couch or doing house chores, I'm going to continue doing so.

glimshe6 days ago
I like his videos. He's funny and I don't have time to read his sources... So I'll take copy and paste, he's providing a good service.
throw0101a5 days ago
> He's funny and I don't have time to read his sources... So I'll take copy and paste, he's providing a good service.

See also Ben Felix:

* https://www.youtube.com/@BenFelixCSI/videos

Puts (DOI) links to the peer-reviewed papers he cites. And he often gets the authors of those papers on the podcast his co-hosts:

* https://rationalreminder.ca

glimshe4 days ago
Ben Felix is also pretty good.
karmakurtisaani5 days ago
Not sure whywhy people hate on you. YouTube is about presentation, not original research.
whall65 days ago
Here’s a useful rule of thumb: if they’re spending all their time making YouTube videos they’re not running a successful hedge fund.
bayarearefugee6 days ago
> Patrick Boyle: The Copy-Paste Professor

The main practical problem for him now career-wise is that he's seen as leftist (a label which already kinda only makes sense in the context of how far the rightward shift in the US has been until relatively recently) so he'll probably be held accountable for this.

If you are sufficiently right-coded like Lex Fridman you can get away with this sort of thing forever.

See also: Media response to Biden gaffes vs Trump, or the outcome for Al Franken vs... virtually any modern Republican Senator.

karmakurtisaani5 days ago
Interesting point, and I tend to agree. People really require integrity from anyone perceived to be on the left, whereas you can be as disgusting as you want on the right and it won't hurt you even a bit. Works in politics too.
topranks4 days ago
Such an odd world where someone like Patrick Boyle is considered “left wing”.

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