Beskedet inför nästa val: ”Skulle givetvis granska alla händelser”

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lensecat6 days ago
It's crazy that the guy only got 648 personal votes and still got into parliament. In a country with eight million eligible voters and 349 MPs.
TazeTSchnitzel6 days ago
Sweden uses a party list proportional representation system. Seats are allocated based on how many votes a party gets, and they are allocated to parties first. The selection of who then sits in those seats then comes down to ”personröster” (literally “person-votes”, but I think they're conventionally translated as “preferential votes” or something like that), which are optional. Most voters do not put a cross next to their preferred candidate, they just put the party ballot paper in the envelope and the envelope goes in the box. And because they're optional, there's therefore a threshold for how many personröster a candidate has to receive to be elected. That threshold is 5% of voters in the particular electoral district. Only candidates that get more than 5% of votes are even considered in this process; if there's none (or not enough), then the candidates from the party list are taken.

The seat would have gone to the Left Party either way. But only this guy specifically got enough personal support to get elected. There's nothing that crazy about it. Participative democracy rewards those who choose to participate. In this case, it's a two-tier participation system. People who vote for a party, but not for a specific candidate, are letting the people who do vote for a specific candidate choose for them. And that's fine.

JumpCrisscross6 days ago
Translated https://translate.kagi.com/www.tv4.se/artikel/37VDHaUBmbgXCI.... Title seems editorialised.

TL; DR There are allegations this source brought up which don't seem to have any official corroboration. TV4SE met with election observers, but I see no evidence any credible observers have said they will "invetigate" as no observers were sent to the election. The most ODIHR have said is that they would consider this when deciding whether to send observers in the future.

try-working6 days ago
The direct translation of the article title is that they will "follow up" on election fraud reports, investigations etc.

All Swedish media have reported, and report several times per day about the ongoing investigations into election fraud in Sweden.

Here is a new article, where a specific case is being investigated by a special police force dedicated to threats against our democratic system:

'The police report concerns an incident alleged to have taken place at a polling station in Malmö on August 26. The case was registered on September 15 and is classified as suspected improper influence on voting.

The case has now also been transferred from the Malmö investigative duty unit to the unit for crimes threatening democracy (GDB).

This is a specialized police unit that handles crimes targeting—or risking an impact on—the democratic system.

According to the police, a preliminary investigation is underway, but due to confidentiality rules regarding such investigations, they are unwilling to disclose further details about the nature of the suspicions.

"In light of this ongoing investigation and applicable confidentiality regulations, we are unfortunately unable to provide further information regarding the content of the report or the status of the investigation at this stage," writes Fredrik Arvidsson, the former lead investigator, via the police press office.'

https://kvartal.se/jesperandersson/artiklar/misstankt-valbro...

JumpCrisscross5 days ago
Sure. But it’s incorrect to say international bodies are investigating. They don’t do that when they haven’t observed.
axospaxos6 days ago
That's a lot of words to say nothing. Why would a police force and regulations designed to protect democracy choose to prioritize darkness, its known predator?
TazeTSchnitzel6 days ago
It looks like the OP is determined to push a certain narrative about election fraud being pivotal in the 2026 Swedish election.

I think in that context it should be pointed out that the 2026 election was not particularly remarkable. It went from a 2-seat majority for the liberal-conservative bloc to a 2-seat majority for the liberal-left bloc (there's two different liberal centrist parties, one in each bloc… Sweden's a funny place). There was a mere 0.67 percentage point increase in turnout from last election. Some of that may be from recently naturalised citizens, who according to polling are somewhat more likely to vote for the left-leaning parties (not strange given those parties are less hostile to immigrants). But the biggest change in this election is the 3.05 percentage point drop in support for the most right-wing anti-immigrant party. I don't think you need to resort to accusations of fraud to explain that one: the anti-establishment populists have been in power for the first time ever, and been forced to compromise. It's not surprising that voters become a bit less enthusiastic. But only marginally: this was an election won on a single-percentage-point swing. If there's been large-scale fraud here, it's very very subtle.

UpsideDownRide6 days ago
I have been hearing about Sweden's downfall due to migrants for my whole life. And I'm not a young person.
hagbard_c6 days ago
If you can read Swedish the following article in Svenska Dagbladet (a major Swedish newspaper) gives an overview of what happened in voting locations in Järva (a city district of Stockholm):

https://archive.ph/zYXOA

If you can't read Swedish and don't feel like pulling the article through a translator I can provide some examples, taken from this article:

1. More than a hundred Eritrean women come in groups to vote early at the civic office in Husby. They are joined by two priests from their congregation. Everyone votes for the same party, and ticks the same candidate. The priests instruct the women how to do it.

2. A man is repeatedly driven out of the polling station in Tensta Library for giving instructions to others how to vote. On several occasions, he is caught handing out pre-filled ballots just outside the entrance.

3. At the end of August there's a constant stream of early voters in Rinkeby. Many do not know Swedish at all and have no idea how to act in a polling station or what they should vote for. But one thing they know, a task they have been given, and a phrase they can say, “Number eight”. Ilyas Hassan, from Husby. Member of the board of the communist party. Their countryman.

4. An elderly woman with a perambulator comes in for early voting in the company of an employee of the municipal civic office next door. When the old lady walks up to the election official, the 'assistant' leaves the venue. Just when the official is about to put the ballot envelopes in the voting box the woman suddenly exclaims “stop”. And then she tells her that she really wants to vote for another party. But that she had needed help at the office to copy some documents, and that the person who worked there only wanted to assist her if she first went and voted for the Communist Party.

5. A [man] in Tensta appears to habitually accompany voters into the early voting room. He even tries to get behind the screen to 'help' them put voting forms he provided into the envelopes. He is repeatedly driven out. When one of the election officials goes to Tensta square he sees the man. He sits in the Communist Party's election cabin and wears a yellow vest with the party's sigil.

6. In all early voting rooms in Järva voting officials need to check voting form stands several times an hour. More often than not things have happened. Voting forms have been moved or hidden. And constantly pre-filled voting forms are found between the others or are left on the table, mostly for the Communist Party, usually marked for candidate number eight.

7. Staff in the voting locations - one of the sources says that it happened to him three times - are discreetly summoned to the voting booths by voters. They nervously whisper that they want help with the disposal of pre-filled voting envelopes without anyone seeing this because they want to personally choose what to vote for.

8. Remote control via mobile phones. Many of the early voters in Järva stand with their phone behind the voting screen. They have photos or written instructions sent to them to make sure they choose the right party and candidate. Others make video calls for help to do the right thing. Not sure to whom.

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[election officials] also agree on what terms should be used to describe what they have seen. “Clan voting, election influence and voter fraud at a level I have never seen before,” one of the officials said. Another argues that it was obvious that clans and mosques ruled much of the vote, and that ignorant voters – mostly women – were systematically misled and exploited.

...

“Should police and prosecutors investigate what happened, and how?” [the writer] asks . The answer comes after a while.

“Yes,” he replies, “and I don’t want to be involved any more if it’s going to be this way.”

This does not sound like 'the 2026 election was not particularly remarkable'. The small margins in the Swedish elections mean it only takes a few thousand of these coerced votes to significantly change the outcome. It is time to defend our democracy. Clan and mosque voting is not part of our democracy and should not become so either, agree?

TazeTSchnitzel6 days ago
“Clan voting” and “mosque voting” are terms that try to exoticise the phenomenon with a racial overtone. I don't think they are conducive to a healthy discussion. There's an in-built assumption in those terms that these voters are only voting a certain way due to some kind of special “foreign” type of social relation that Swedes without immigrant backgrounds would not have. This plays into prejudice and is not necessarily supported by the evidence. It also presupposes a particular conclusion.

I think you can be concerned about voters with low levels of education and poor socio-economic circumstances being pressured to vote one way or another without immediately framing it in this racialised way. Why must it be a “clan”? Does such a concept even have a clear definition? Wouldn't Swedes with a Somali background perhaps be inclined to support someone else who is also Somali if they happened to be a candidate for political office, as they would feel represented by them? How do we know they are from the same “clan” and not just the same country? Are Sweden Finns who vote for Sweden Finnish candidates “clan voters”?

Similarly I can point out that mosques are not special. If someone is influenced in how they choose to vote by what they hear at church, are they a “church voter”? Remember that religious institutions are often at the centre of social life in certain communities.

try-working6 days ago
Related post about Swedish election fraud: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49828873
hagbard_c6 days ago
Yes, well, good I say. Here's an article - in Swedish - which gives some insight in what happened:

https://ledarsidorna.se/klanerna-valjer-partier/

The title is "Clans choose parties":

When the Somali form of parliamentarism meets the Swedish electoral system, both friction and synergies arise. It was not the communist party's election committees or voters who elected their candidates or members. It was the Somali clan logic, parliamentary tradition and electoral college which decided which Swedish parties would become platforms to channel their representatives.

The article is written by Johan Westerholm, he used to work for the Swedish state foreign aid organisation SIDA and as such has a lot of experience in these matters.

[ also posted in the other thread, here for completeness' sake ]

JumpCrisscross6 days ago
> good I say

It looks like credible evidence has been raised. But I see zero evidence any international organizations are investigating in the way that term is usually used. “Have taken note of” is more accurate.

try-working6 days ago
No, that is not accurate and a misrepresenation. The direct translation is "will follow up".
maxxen6 days ago
Ledarsidorna is an alt-right blog, not a serious news source.
Leonard_of_Q6 days ago
Did you read the article and follow the sources? If not, why not? Also, why spout nonsense about this being an 'alt-right blog'? Westerholm is a 'betongsosse', an old-style social democrat. Are they 'alt-right' just because they don't do identity politics?
onemoreforthero6 days ago
The political party "Vänsterpartiet" is not translated as "the communist party". Correct is "Left Party".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Party_(Sweden)

Or we can start calling SD by their proper neonazi name as well.

hagbard_c6 days ago
SD was never called 'neonazi'? The Swedish communist party has changed its name several times, from 'Sveriges Kommunistiska Partiet' via 'Vänsterpartiet Kommunisterna' to the current 'Vänsterpartiet' but the program remains the same as is shown by the following citation taken from page 32 of the latest party program of 'Ung Vänster' (the communist party's youth wing, the future of the party) from their 51st congress in 2025:

Vårt idealsamhälle definieras utifrån marxistiska och feministiska teorier. Feminismens mål är ett samhälle fritt från könsförtryck och socialismens mål är kommunismen, det klass- och statslösa samhälle

This translates to:

Our ideal society is defined by Marxist and feminist theories. The goal of feminism is a society free from gender oppression and the goal of socialism is Communism, the class- and stateless society

https://ungvanster.se/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Ung-Vanster...

Aside: do you really think that the ~20% of the Swedish electorate vote for 'neonazis' knowing that those same voters mostly used to vote for the social democrats and 'moderates'? What do you even mean when you say 'neonazi'? I showed some clear signs - as clear as can be - that the Communist party which these days calls itself the 'Left Party' [1] still has the same ideological roots. Can you give some indication of what it is that makes SD 'neonazi'?

[1] just like the former Eastern German Communist party changed its name from 'SED' (socialist unity party) through 'PDS' (party for democratic socialism) to 'Die Linke' (The Left)

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