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randusername8 days ago
I'm starting to notice AI power users communicating in a shorthand tech-speak I find unintelligible. I genuinely cannot follow the individual points in this article or what the overall arc is.

Is this something that was already part of web dev or is it new?

SyneRyder7 days ago
I regard myself as pro-AI, and I find this article is all over the place. It's just trying to promote their SaaS. It's clear they didn't even read what the LLM generated before posting it, as evidenced by this line:

"99.9% uptime (CloudWatch, Feb to Sep, insert your real number)"

This user also appears to have a Reddit account from 3 years ago where they claim to be a half human cyborg.

https://www.reddit.com/user/fagnerbrack/comments/195jgst/faq...

I think that's all I need to know, personally.

fagnerbrack7 days ago
Bruh, there's 3 paragraphs I got info from the codebase using AI, the bullet points and the insights section

Everything else was written by hand and I made sure to not use AI even for structure (which I usually do)

It's settled. Either I use AI or not people will always say the same thing

bakugo8 days ago
It's not the users doing the communication, it's their AIs.

And you, as a human, were not meant to read it - you're supposed to instead feed it back into your own AI agent and have it create a groundbreaking new AI startup based on it. Give it your Cloudflare credentials, sit back, sip a latte, and within an hour or two you'll have a beautiful, fully functional website, complete with fancy fonts, 30 different "No X. No Y. Just Z" taglines, and a $20 monthly subscription, ready to show off to investors. You'll be a highly successful entrepreneur by the end of the week.

Ampersander7 days ago
Doing drugs sounds both more rewarding and productive.
sdcfgy7 days ago
I find wine helps. Lots of wine.
RomanKornev7 days ago
> I genuinely cannot follow the individual points in this article or what the overall arc is.

It's just slop. Acknowledge, move on, and find something better to spend your time on.

We're in a weird uncanny valley state of AI writing where it's barely comprehensible, but makes people feel productive so they shove it everywhere, including where it's not needed.

At some point, either:

1. People will realize that this is a waste of time

2. Models will get better and this will be remembered as a blip in history

nijave7 days ago
I think people are making skills to have AI generate text that sounds like them but AI--especially Claude--has a hard time not sounding like AI.
luc_8 days ago
Seems more like AI-in-the-loop more than AI-native.

I feel like this post didn't teach me anything I didn't already know or have an intuition about.

ofjcihen8 days ago
I think that’s because across experience levels there really isn’t much to teach regarding “how to use AI”.

The only grind is still just do you know the subject matter, tools and frameworks, etc. because that’s the knowledge that lets you look at the output and say “this is fine” or “this is absolutely the worst implementation I’ve ever seen try again but do X”.

In my experience adding on multiple layers of controls etc aside from basic skills is essentially as useful as a ring of salt and a live offering.

fagnerbrack8 days ago
My workflow these days is basically ultracode + PRs. I do control the features that go but barely need to check the code due to the amount of checks: lint, TS, Local AI visual Model for visual check for screen frame comparison (Mac M5 48GB mem), Pixel/Screenshot regression test for basic UI, code coverage/c8 to avoid trash code without tests, etc. etc.

Essentially the tests are just for the AI to remember what they did (as in the description + break if they change smth unintentionally).

hollowturtle8 days ago
Looking for a job? This sounds like personal marketing speech rather than a blog worth reading, no new insights no nothing
monegator8 days ago
no shit, it's some medium backed shit website.

Wish i could filter ALL of these, not just those with the medium website

NichoPaolucci7 days ago
Does this implementation really require this robust of infra / setup?

The entire stack feels overkill for a repo that has 2 followers and 29 stars.

I also am probably not the target demographic though, I just download things that I want to preserve and completely forget about them in a folder called 0_archive.

I just feel like in 2013 some fella would have had this project running on an old laptop in his garage hooked up to FTP and the uptime would be comparable.

I also love when AI adds tidbits like this:

> and staging has to pass before prod deploys.

Thanks for the clarity on that, Claude, you read my mind.

fagnerbrack7 days ago
Text is human written. The repository popularity shows dev interest not product usage, if this was closed source it would have been 0 stars and 0 followers.

Maybe most devs are not interested in how to build stable infra and just vibe code

nijave7 days ago
I don't think so. I have lieer + notmuch setup with a few AI generated Python scripts that will mark things as read. It also took about 5 minutes of fiddling with notmuch cli and jq to extract SNS message bodies from emails (for instance).

I think a thin layer on notmuch would get you pretty close without so much infrastructure.

On the web scraping side, scrapling seems to pretty much just work. There hasn't been a website yet it won't load in some mode--even Google SERP.

YuechenLi7 days ago
Well, what I found "AI native software" to be is "usable heedlessly via scripts/CLI with UI being optional", because that's how LLM agents naturally interact with software.

Also, I'm really not sure this bookmark project/website/extension would require 6 months of Claude with 6 of them running continuously to build.

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