To me, AI writing always results in this: And If it's read by a human it should also be written by a human.

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kdazzle8 days ago
I had a professor who said that writing is thinking. If you outsource writing to an AI, there’s no thought in it.

Using AI for any part of the writing process has a way of seeping into the rest of it, so I try to stay away from using it at all when writing.

dgellow8 days ago
LLM also makes it way too easy to “cheat”. It’s really like bilbo and the ring of power: “this is pretty hard to explain in a coherent way, maybe, just maybe, I can just this one time use AI? Nobody will know!”. And little by little you end up arguing with yourself that actually generating the whole article isn’t really that bad, while slowly morphing into a human harness
Aarostotle8 days ago
Your professor is right. There’s nothing wrong to use AI to aid the process _of thinking_. That’s actually really helpful, at least to me.

You’re right about firewalling it in your mind. The moment it starts steering you into ideas that aren’t yours, the piece is screwed.

copperx8 days ago
> I had a professor who said that writing is thinking.

Socrates would have laughed at that.

Maybe in the future we'll believe that prompting is thinking.

NiloCK8 days ago
If you start thinking today, there's no way to know if you can think without writing.

- Socrates

(The problem is real, but the future equilibrium is not easy to predict.)

copperx8 days ago
Did you mean to write

> If you start writing today, there's no way to know if you can think without writing.

spiderdev8 days ago
"If you haven’t, there’s no way for readers to know if you can write without AI, whereas if you have written long enough, people know."

I disagree... I can see where a person uses a degree or certificate of some kind where they have a large focus on writing in person without the use of a computer, and they can use that to prove they can write without AI.

Jtsummers8 days ago
The actual title:

> Writing with AI: What's the Best Approach?

The submission title isn't even on that page.

hagbard_c8 days ago
Yes, silly title both because it isn't in the article and because it is not true. Of course you can write without "AI", al it takes is a person and a writing implement of choice ranging from a clay tablet through a slate, papyrus, paper, typewriter or a free software document processor like LibreOffice which does not contain "AI" tools. Once so equipped all the person has to do is to start writing, write whatever is on his mind and finish the job. Voila, "AI"-free writing, started "today".
jdw648 days ago
I wonder how much my post would come across as AI-written. I wrote almost all of it by hand. Of course, I do use AI for technical reinforcement, but I wonder how this kind of principle would come across.
pixl978 days ago
My joke around this is

"HN, detecting 200 of the last 10 AI written articles"

Tools like Panagram will simply fall into uselessness as more people read AI and write like AI. Language converges. Much like people started saying "that's cool" to mean something is neat rather than cold, "If not X then Y" will become a pattern humans use far more commonly because they read it in AI all the time.

jdw648 days ago
I've observed this too. I've also started using AI-style writing a lot.
derwiki8 days ago
We’re speedrunning to Newspeak
kurthr8 days ago
At least for now, it's still very biz-tech with most users in their little bubble. It's more awful office emails than actual conversations. Claude is only ~50M active users (I'm sure Gemini, Copilot, and GPT are larger, but they have different quirks) so it's still more of a "valley girl" quirk than standard.

If the slop really starts to take off on theTok, and teen girls start to say, "You're completely right, we're not just focused on the load bearing substrate, we're delving the seams of our relationship", I'll start to worry.

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