Several Egyptian gods are depicted with animal heads. Horus has a falcon head, Anubis has a jackal head, Thoth has an ibis head (except when he’s a baboon), and Set has…uhh, what is that, exactly? …

154 points•surprisetalk•9 days ago•44 comments•

44 comments

evandrofisico7 days ago
As the Old Jaffa joke says:

A serpent guard, a Horus guard, and a Setesh guard meet on a neutral planet. It is a tense moment. The serpent guard's eyes glow. The Horus guard's beak glistens. The Setesh guard's... nose drips.

tsimionescu7 days ago
As the older Babylonian joke says[0]:

A dog enters a bar. He doesn't see anything, so he says "shall I open this door?"

(the combination of an article about a mysterious aspect of such a well known ancient god and your joke made me think of this mysterious Babylonian joke, recorded from 1700 BCE but whose meaning we can only theorize about)

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_joke#First_recorded_exampl...

ticulatedspline6 days ago
> "éš-dam", can also be translated as "brothel"

My own personal guess "I cannot see anything" may mean "blind". door could be a choice of brothel rooms. so basically

"A blind 'dog' enters a brothel and asks, which hooker should I take?"

actionfromafar7 days ago
I hope it's a deadpan joke that the dog can not only speak, but does so like any other bar patron.
SA9G7 days ago
Too funny.... All I could literally think about while reading the article was the Goa'uld saying "Jaffa Kree!" Maybe I will give it another year of senility and watch it all over again... should have forgotten everything by then.
TeMPOraL7 days ago
Same here. I read the headline, immediately guessed which god it's about, and hoped the good ol' Jaffa humor will be there waiting in the HN comments.

Glad to see it as top comment. Recognition for the classics means there's still hope for humanity yet.

21asdffdsa127 days ago
Indeed
tomrod7 days ago
Huh. Pretty clearly a dog/jackal though, right?

Set was the god of Libya and was at war with the "good guy gods" in Egypt, so one has to assume the civilization based in Libya would be were we could correlate the answer -- and we have the contention that the Sahara has grown since the early days of Egypt, so its possible the definitive answer remains buried.

emmelaich7 days ago
Aardvark to me. Similar snout, long ears. They were probably in the southern reaches of Egypt.

With regard to differences that could be explained by stylisation and the lack of familiarity due to it's rarity in most of Egypt.

FromTheFirstIn7 days ago
If experts have disagreed about it for longer than you’ve been alive it seems like arrogance to say it’s pretty clearly anything.
guelo7 days ago
They already had a jackal god in Anubis which is represented without the weird down slopping snout and squared ears.
btilly7 days ago
From the article, "Egypt was conquered several times by foreign nations that the Egyptians perceived as worshiping Set."

So while the Egyptians might have seen Set as the god of Libya, the Libyan representations might not be the one that Egyptians were comparing to.

asdff7 days ago
Could be a combination of stuff too like a birds beak shoved on a cat shoved on a human body.
card_zero7 days ago
cgriswald7 days ago
That’s clearly a Groening rabbit.
jjtheblunt7 days ago
anteater / aardvark looks like what Set is modeling back in the day
__alexs7 days ago
There is no evidence Aardvarks in egypt at that time. I think we'd probably expect at least a few aardvark bones if it was.
jjtheblunt6 days ago
in the article:

> ...Aardvarks, which the Egyptians could plausibly have encountered on their trading trips farther south into Africa.

pluc7 days ago
There is no conclusion in this article if you care about such things.
ludamn7 days ago
Yeah, I'm a fan of Egyptian mythology and enjoyed reading it, for one moment I thought the article would present some new evidence/findings to settle the debate, unfortunately that's not the case

NGL, the quote below was a nice way to end the article giving all the data we have though

> So we may not know for sure what the Set animal is, [...] And maybe that’s exactly how a god of chaos within an ordered world would want it to be.

fooker7 days ago
The great thing about history is that there can only be conjectures, never conclusions.

Unless you invent a time machine of course.

yipinwong7 days ago
i meant to say there is no such thing either, but your comment changed my mind. eye opening.
MomsAVoxell6 days ago
I believe it is best left to fantasy now anyway, personally.. Set is indeed a random seed; may as well be "an alien races head" as anything else, given the actual utility of Set, contextually, in the dogma. '?'-Set is fine by me.

The value of a 'mystery head' may actually indeed have been the intention of the original artists. A '*'-char for Ra.

Read the full thread on Hacker News →

Related stories