On your Mac, you can turn off Apple Intelligence features like Siri AI, summarization features, and more.

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223 comments

VCFundedGenYer9 days ago
I want the disk space taken from the models back.

I will never touch this garbage and would rather use the disk space I purchased to be used for my purposes, not the industry's pointless fad bubble endeavors.

titzer9 days ago
> disk space

I honestly do not understand what the 28GB Tahoe update contained. Like, I cannot imagine what all the code does. It'd take a lifetime to actually go through it all, and yet, here I am just using the same programs I did before it, just with rounder corners and some other pretty things. Actually wait, fewer programs, because some things break or have markedly less functionality.

burningChrome9 days ago
>> Actually wait, fewer programs, because some things break or have markedly less functionality.

The new liquid glass ui also fails a lot of basic accessibility checkpoints like contrast, readability, and increases cognitive load.

The rounded corners you speak of also hamper tap and touch targets for users with motor disabilities. The rounded corners make icons and other elements less distinct, increasing the possibility of touch or tap errors.

classified9 days ago
I don't take this abuse any longer. My last Mac is on macOS 14 and it will stay there for the remainder of its existence. I'm on Linux now and I'm not missing much compared to Mac. I'll put it this way: If a move to Apple Silicon would make me lose most of my apps anyway, then I might just as well move to an OS where I'm the boss again. Also, gaming got way better with Steam's Proton and the Heroic Game Launcher for GOG and others. I'm not going back.
TheCoreh9 days ago
A good chunk of this (20GB) is AI models, particularly Apple's local LLM (used to power parts of Siri and a couple other things)

It's not really "code" in the traditional sense

csomar9 days ago
Many apps in the App Store are now 0.5Gb in size. I got an M5 with 2 Terabytes a couple weeks ago and I was wondering why do I need all this space for. I guess I might end up short on space.
mort969 days ago
Absolutely 100%. Now I'm very biased against this "AI" stuff in general, but even fans of "AI" can't want this, right? I mean I know some people who are heavy "AI" users and they all either have a setup with Cursor/Codex/Zed/VSCode/whatever or their preferred local model, they'd never ever want to use "whatever Apple happens to ship with the OS". Same with the model Google bundled into their browser, growing Chrome from roughly 200MB to over 4GB. Who's the target audience here?

It's investors isn't it.

jm49 days ago
I actually like AI tools, but I don’t use Apple Intelligence. It’s literally the worst in class. It feels very late 90’s Microsoft. They are shoving it on us when we don’t want it and it’s worse than everything else out there. It’s the Windows Media Player of the AI industry.
MarcScott9 days ago
No, there are a tonne of Apple users that aren't developers, that will probably love this. They'll currently be using paid subscriptions to OpenAI, but only via the web app, and will happily switch to using Apple Intelligence.
logancbrown9 days ago
You can't imagine a singular person and reason who would want an improved Siri?
howunfortunate9 days ago
It's pretty nice from an app developers perspective.

It allows me to save money by calling a model on the users device rather than spending tokens (or forcing the user to spend tokens).

eastbound9 days ago
I think a large part of our ecosystem is:

1. Lose the user, make him struggle to find items in the Start menu (Windows), struggle to type words on the keyboard (iOS), or struggle to manage find their subscription (Atlassian),

2. ???

3. Profit

If it's a dark pattern, I'd like to know what step 2 is. Who knows, maybe the goal is to overwhelm the user and it's a spy operation from the KGB.

thedanbob9 days ago
I followed this guide[0] (with hints from this issue[1]) to recover 16+ GB. It's ridiculous that one has to go to such lengths, but I was not willing to give up 16% of my free space for models I will never use.

[0] https://github.com/tejyash/delete-apple-intelligence-macos [1] https://github.com/tejyash/delete-apple-intelligence-macos/i...

xoa9 days ago
One thing I haven't seen tried in any of these things floating around (I'm still on macOS 15) that is the first thing I'd test after deletion is to stick a locked dummy file in there of the same name and see if that interferes with redownloads without any of the other mess. That's a classic simple hack. Ie, after deletion just a quick

  # touch com_apple_MobileAsset_UAF_FM_GenerativeModels
  # chflags schg com_apple_MobileAsset_UAF_FM_GenerativeModels
Then reenable SIP (or not). While maybe Apple stuck in some extra smarts in their download logic, and a full system update I think nowadays just blows everything away and replaces it, I've found in practice developers (not unreasonably) tend not to consider non-trivially-removable files appearing "where they're not supposed to be" and build a path for that. Granted, possible the process just ends up spinning trying to redownload over and over again or something but would be an easy thing to test.
m4rtink9 days ago
Yeah, this is bad for all kinds of reasons:

- opt-in without user consent

- on already traditionally overpriced Apple hardware

- storage being overpriced to insane levels on top due to the AI bubble

- apple hardware being impossible to upgrade by the user to higher amount of storage due to chips soldered on or artificial limitations on what storage can be installed

hirvi749 days ago
I wanted to like Siri AI, but it does not really do anything that I need at the moment.

I was hoping Siri AI could help more in the GUI automation world, but it seems that is not the case.

For example, I was hoping Siri AI could create a Shortcut that would clear/dismiss all notification banners. Nope, it can’t even access nor see notifications.

I have my own scripts and whatnot to handle these desires, but I am just tired of having to rework a lot of them for each OS release.

jackyard869 days ago
I don't know about Macs, but under iOS/iPadOS you can set the Siri region to somewhere Siri is unsupported (e.g. Russia) to get back about 15 gigabytes of storage. Also when you set it to Russia, Safari Reader's gigantic "summarize" button disappears so that's another bonus.
zzyzxd9 days ago
I would never have figured out the toggle for writing tools is in `Settings -> Screen Time -> Content & Privacy Restrictions -> Siri -> Writing Assistance`
derefr9 days ago
Apple's assumption seems to be that the only reason you'd want to turn the LLM features off as a consumer is that you're a parent and you don't want your children interacting with LLMs. So they put it where "parent trying to lock down their child's computer" settings are.

(If you look, most other toggles that appear under "Content & Privacy Restrictions" are for similar things: things Apple provides no more-visible setting to disable; because they think you have "no reason" to turn these features off; because these features are, at least in Apple's opinion, "unobtrusive" [i.e. only really doing something if explicitly activated] and "costless.")

In contrast, I presume the underlying setting identifier, as appears in `defaults` and/or MDM profiles, has a more sensible hierarchical prefix based on what potential risks an organization would see in a roll-out of LLM use.

ETA: yes: the macOS settings domain for "LLM stuff" is `com.apple.applicationaccess`, and the declarative-configuration namespace is `com.apple.configuration.intelligence.settings`. Neither of which has anything to do with parental controls per se (though `com.apple.applicationaccess` is generally where MDM settings related to preventing employees from using "potentially insecure" device capabilities live.)

There's also the declarative-configuration namespace of `com.apple.configuration.external-intelligence.settings` ...which is a bit of a bass-ackwards use of their own declarative configuration model, since if it had been `com.apple.configuration.intelligence.external.settings` instead, then the settings in the enclosing "intelligence" namespace would serve as fallback defaults for the external-intelligence specific settings. Ah well.

sota_pop8 days ago
Or is their base assumption that their primary os users are children?

MacOS certainly feels like a toy to me in many regards.

wdr19 days ago
It's a common pattern in Apple products. They make it hard to turn off settings they really don't want you to turn off.

Another example is advertising. Apple made it easy for you to turn off advertising tracking for non-Apple things.

Apple made it very confusing to turn off advertising tracking for Apple things, including having a different setting for this to begin with.

tpmoney9 days ago
> Apple made it very confusing to turn off advertising tracking for Apple things

Is it not Privacy & Security -> Apple Advertising -> Personalized Ads?

reustle9 days ago
Love or hate Omarchy, it's movements like that which are finally going to convince diehard macos users to consider a more open and controllable OS. Small annoyances can be ignored, but after a while, there is too much noise.

I am sure my Macbook uses a RNG to decide whether or not I can use touch ID to unlock.

dburkland9 days ago
The settings menus in recent iOS & macOS releases have been an absolute mess.
cco9 days ago
Even worse, once you're there, you toggle _on_ "Content & Privacy", and then what?

What does the toggle on for "Image creation" mean? Is that now restricted? Or is toggle off mean it is restricted?

pdpi9 days ago
Clearly, nobody at Apple is thinking globally about this stuff.

If you have kids, "Screen Time" is a reasonable enough name for the place where parental controls live.

If you work under the assumption that AI features are OK in general, but potentially problematic around kids in particular, parental controls are a reasonable enough place to put these AI controls.

If you're not a parent, and have broader concerns about AI, you'd never even think of looking for these options where they are.

tpmoney9 days ago
It's very weird that these aren't in the already existing top level "Siri" or "Privacy & Security" settings tabs. Apple has had a problem for a while now where it seems like they just don't know what they want to do with the settings app, and like you said, doesn't have anyone in charge of the "global" view of the settings. Why are, "Appearance", "Desktop & Dock" and "Wallpaper" all different top level items? Why are "Wi-Fi" and "Network" different top level items? Why is "Battery" top level, but "Time Machine" and "Sharing" and "Date & Time" are all under "General"? Why is "Autofill & Passwords" under general and not "Privacy & Security"?
dualvariable9 days ago
If AI/LLMs are so great, why isn't Apple using them to better organize all these settings?
asdff9 days ago
They don't want you to associate it with it being a privacy and security shortcoming.
CodingJeebus9 days ago
As someone who has spent a lot of time trying to configure my iOS/Mac experience to be more intentional/less addictive, I am intimately familiar with Screen Time at this point. And my gut says this isn't an oversight on Apple's part at all.

This is very intentional because in my experience, Apple's attempt at actually managing screen time and device access is mostly theater, and it absolutely tracks that they'd bury this config within Screen Time.

snazz9 days ago
What have you found to be effective for you? I recently heard of this (basically Brick but open source and with any NFC tag or barcode), but I haven’t gotten a chance to test it out yet: https://www.foqos.app/
strictnein9 days ago
The thing that's weird about Apple's "Intelligence" features is how dumb they are. I messaged one of my kids yesterday that the pizza I made was ready and that I was out in the backyard with our dogs. Genmoji (or whatever it's called) then decided to suggest that I make a new Emoji with pizzas in a yard.

It's great that they're on device and all, but how incredibly stupid.

coldpie9 days ago
Many bothans died to bring you that suggestion to make a new emoji of pizzas in a yard.
doc_ick9 days ago
Still better then Microsoft.
hatsix9 days ago
I've never had Microsoft read a message, initiate an AI generation, then attempt to inject that into my conversation.

Not to say they wouldn't try...

a969 days ago
The very lowest bar that ever existed.
psygn899 days ago
Mmm, freshly grown yard pizzas, just like AI ~~used to~~ currently makes.
juancn9 days ago
It's the price you pay for privacy
k3109 days ago
This applies to MacOS 26.

On iOS 27, it looks like changing the settings for eight different apps taking 5 or 6 steps each.

https://archive.ph/AE72I#selection-712.0-731.53

Original: https://www.ithinkdiff.com/how-to-turn-off-apple-intelligenc...

MadrasThorn9 days ago
Thanks for the heads up. I'm not going to upgrade to iOS 27.

I think my M5 will say on 26 as long as humanly possible.

getpost9 days ago
Select the version from the pulldown menu at the top left of the screen.
ShinyLeftPad9 days ago
This comment is exactly what "helpful" solutions in apple discussions are like.

There isn't iOS in the menu at all but it'll say confidently like it is and you'll be triple checking yourself for 5 min like a complete idiot

k3109 days ago
I only saw 26 and 15 in the pulldown. Might be due to my {REDACTED} version of macOS.

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