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wewewedxfgdf10 days ago
I find it very hard to understand the things these AI CEO's say.

He will probably get up there and say his companies products will destroy every citizen of their countries.

howunfortunate10 days ago
People will say it's marketing but I find Occam's Razor highly favors the theory "they are true believers in AGI/ASI"

This seems especially true for Anthropic employees.

moshun10 days ago
Wouldn’t Occam’s razor say that the people speaking are highly motivated to continue being paid? Relying on their fear of future outcomes seems to be misplaced to judge the honesty of their statements.
chrisXOXO10 days ago
Genuinely, what makes people not believe in coming AGI? I read quite a lot on hackernews but never encounter a strong post/comment against it, apart from the „what is marketing“ discussion. Maybe people don’t bother because everyone is in their trenches, tough I don’t understand how people do not see the AGI coming. What kind of doom, if any, will befall is something different of course. I don’t want to believe there will be AGI in the next 5 years, but it sure is hard not to!
laxd10 days ago
Shocking publicity is good publicity. And "my product is so potent it will probably destroy you." I think I´ve heard it from drug dealers as well.
kelseyfrog10 days ago
Smells of, "You can't handle my potions. They're too strong for you."[1]

1. https://genius.com/Justin-kuritzkes-potion-seller-annotated

EA-316710 days ago
It’s a great way to sign up young men for military duty too, sell it to them like it’s something exciting and awesome… and they can’t handle it.
amelius10 days ago
Why are we even discussing this here? Altman works in the alchemy sector, not the tech sector.
lenkite10 days ago
My product is so powerful, you all need to pay me more money to keep it safe for you.
ks204810 days ago
The founder of Loopt is now ruling the world.
cloche10 days ago
The guy had a failed startup and somehow leveraged that into the situation today.
IncreasePosts10 days ago
I imagine his time at ycombinator as Gríma Wormtongue whispering into theoden's(paulg's) ear
einarfd10 days ago
He will probably tell them exactly what they want him to say. If he means it or not. That is hard to say.
mlnj10 days ago
When has anyone faced scrutiny over their lies to these politicians?
wg010 days ago
The private equity debt time bomb is here. Then there is the bond market.

And then guaranteed bust of AI bubble. 2000 billion dollars for a single company? That too when bottom of the boat has been drilled by open weight Chinese models that are cheaper and good enough but can even be deployed locally?

In face of all that - that kind of return is not realistic.

However - good gimmick scaring UN asking for a ban on Chinese models perhaps.

tracerbulletx10 days ago
The UN is not a body that would be involved in banning models from a specific country, and even if they were China is one of 5 members with permanent veto power.
stogot10 days ago
The permanent veto power is the worst part of the UN
api10 days ago
Only way to justify those valuation is if they can achieve regulatory capture and outlaw competitors and open models.

Expect the fear mongering to escalate to a fever pitch.

The UN has no authority to ban anything but it's a good platform.

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