Not AI writing itself. AI is incredibly useful.

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JoshTriplett11 days ago
> Have it rewrite your terrible first draft.

> Have it fix your grammar.

> Have it make your argument clearer.

> Have it turn your 2,000-word ramble into something people can actually read.

Please don't do this, and then try to "put some of yourself back into it".

By all means, use AI to find bugs. But don't let it write a single word. Let it tell you what's wrong, then you can fix it and iterate.

0manrho11 days ago
My rule of thumb is: AI is for automating tasks, tedium and filtering firehoses, not thinking and communicating.

Also, I've found it's best to never trust it's response to a "why" question (formatted this way because a lot of people will will ask AI to speak for them, so you can still get a"why" response without ever having personally prompted for it.)

joker9911 days ago
I understand where you’re coming from but for me, LLMs were a godsend. It helps me every day to stop procrastinating and finally write tickets, specs, reports, “professional“ messages, documentation and a bunch of other stuff.

I give it (low effort) bullet points, general direction, plain (and usually too honest/direct and sometimes even insulting) message I would’ve sent, references and other stuff and things come always out better than what I could’ve ever produced.

For me, the alternative would be to not write at all or spend a disproportionate time on getting some motivation to even write a single paragraph.

ikidd10 days ago
I find using an AI for the first draft useful enough of a kick in the ass to actually get the thing written, which I've probably been procrastinating about for hours.

I rewrite it from there, and it's completely different by the time I'm done because it's version is terrible enough that it annoys me into correcting it.

ChrisMarshallNY11 days ago
> Nobody talks like this in real life.

Marketing folks talked like that, for almost my entire career (it was basically a meme), which wound up, as AI was coming into its own.

TheOtherHobbes11 days ago
The default style is literally marketing droid - a mix of blather, grammatical filler, folksy corporate pretension, and SV dev speak. ('And here's why that matters.' Things 'landing' through 'gates', abstractions having a 'shape', and so on.)

You can wrangle it into something more interesting with shaping and filtering passes, and you can also ask for styles of dead people. (It gets annoyed if you ask for the living.)

That can take you surprisingly far. But most people accept the first thing they get, which is why you see the same style everywhere.

dofm11 days ago
Also a subset of clichéd US tech writers.

It actually feels wrong to mention them by name now (because they are actual humans) but the "They're wrong. Here's why." school of writing was strong in the early 2000s and hasn't really gone away.

cyanydeez11 days ago
I've noticed people are now talking like their chat bots, which is "natural".

It's now just how some people talk.

mettamage11 days ago
You’re absolu —— okay I will see myself out now.

I recently found a programming task it really sucks at: trying to make a texture from normal house pictures and apply that to a 3D house model.

gizajob11 days ago
If you’d have told me this breathless post. Talking about being tired about the AI tone.

Punctuated like this.

Was then AI tone…

Then I’d have believed you.

schiffern11 days ago
The writing is idiosyncratic, not AI indicative. I never in a million years would've thought this blog post was written by AI.
esseph10 days ago
(not saying anything about the writer at all, know nothing about them and am not making assumptions about them at all) but this is a common autistic writing pattern too, tbf.
netsharc11 days ago
I fucking hate the Buzzfeed-style one sentence per paragraph writing... Maybe it's also influenced by 140 character limit of Twitter.

Fucking Jack Dorsey.

pohl11 days ago
Jack was just working within the limit set by fucking Friedhelm Hillebrand.
brunohaid11 days ago
One thing that works quite well for me for a couple of model generations now is to mention https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplified_Technical_English, something along the lines of

  **Use controlled technical English.** Prefer an ASD-STE100 style: use short sentences, direct terms, active voice, and one idea per sentence; avoid slang, hype, vague pronouns, and unnecessary jargon.
in your agents.md. The concept of STE100 seems sufficiently ingrained in the models to eliminate 90% of the annoying fluff.
quibono11 days ago
I’ve seen this a few times now, and Claude does not listen to this in the long term. It’s still terribly obnoxious.

I tend to run the content through something like Luna to deslopify now.

altern811 days ago
What happens in the long term? Doesn't Claude always start with reading CLAUDE.md?
altern811 days ago
This might work.

As an example of before/after: "Perform an inspection of the filter" vs. "Inspect the filter

zetanor11 days ago
I don't use LLMs a whole lot, mostly for research, but personally I'm more bothered by the prompting than by the responses. After years of randomly receiving (now less frequent) incorrect answers, I've gotten used to preempting obvious but wrong trains of thought: "I need X. It's not Y." When I forget to do this and the reply is incorrect, sometimes I'm too lazy to reprompt, so I'll just write back "It's not Y" and it'll answer "wow omg you're so absolutely right, Y is not X!!! here's X instead."

This wasn't great, but then I started catching myself writing "It's not Y" responses to colleagues on Teams. I'm pretty sure I've caught all of these and never actually sent them (I did go and review a few chat logs recently and found no such sent message), but my point is that despite my relatively light LLM usage, I am "LLM-conditioned." The abyss stares back. There could be a lot of deeply "LLM-brained" people out there.

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