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relativeadv11 days ago
If you accept Rene Girard's mimetic theory, then _all_ human desire is fundamentally mimetic. We all learn to want what others want. If this is true, then is there any authentic you at all?

Sidenote: An interesting less spoken about part is Rene's idea of the scapegoat. Any good mimetic desire needs a scapegoat for when competition and rivalry ultimately occur as a byproduct of many people wanting the same thing. Is the LLM the scapegoat in this new equation? This article certainly blames it.

mitxela10 days ago
Billionaires, or capitalism are the scapegoats. Others blame immigrants.
xelxebar11 days ago
Authenticity as a notion is a robust Western cultural more that I find confusing. The best parse I can get on it is this: developing an awareness and possibly a narrative around ways you behave with a subconscious expectation of social affirmation. Developing that awareness can certainly feel like a liberation of self-determination.

That can, also, undoubtedly be a powerful tool in overcoming cultural brainwashing of sorts, but I think the knife cuts both ways. The "authentic self" term makes it sound ontologically real and suggests that there is merit in searching for "finding oneself" when no ther motivating need exists. That road leads to pathological definition writing, IMHO.

SouravInsights11 days ago
I don't think authenticity is necessarily a Western value.. In India or Hindusim we have a term called "Swadharma" - basically means an individual's unique personality or moral obligations that aligns with their inner nature/self. The old notion here is "better to follow your own path than someone else's".

But when I say "be authentic" I don't necessarily mean about finding a hidden real you. It's a very difficult quest anyway but I think we can start with spotting where we're performing for an audience.

Anyway, I started this post with a very simple surface level observation but now it's getting a little deep haha

cluckindan11 days ago
It’s not possible to define a river. Try, and you end up with the definition of an aqueduct.
jhbadger11 days ago
I think the first sentence of the Wikipedia entry on rivers manages it nicely, with no confusion with aqueducts: "A river is a natural stream of fresh water that flows on land or inside caves towards another body of water at a lower elevation, such as an ocean, lake, or another river."
SouravInsights9 days ago
Sorry but I'm not sure what you are trying to communicate with this analogy?
skybrian11 days ago
Sure, learning changes you. Some of that learning is deliberate and some is unconscious, and you are what you learn. I don't think it means you should be afraid to learn new things, but you might want to pay attention to what you spend your time learning.
SouravInsights11 days ago
Aagree. I mean we can't avoid being influenced or be afraid of learning new things. That's impossible anyway.

I think what I'm getting at is being a little more conscious of what we're consuming and how much of our preferences/behaviour we're adopting unconsciously.

skyberrys11 days ago
The answer is to think back to the kid you used to be, but now the kids are formed differently than before. The new kids have computers and YouTube, they already are participating in the misma of technology, they don't have the old memories of the before computer times to fall back into.
SouravInsights10 days ago
Fair point but for me the kid part was never really about being offline, it was more about having no audience. I'm saying we need to go back to how we felt when we did things just for ourselves, with no nody watching. And I feel kids today need adults to leave some room for it.
skyberrys10 days ago
Hey that's a valid take on it, it makes a lot of sense. I do remember the feeling of being self driven as a child.
mhw113 days ago
We’re constantly becoming a different version of ourselves

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