I'm a technologist and have experience in academia, private, and now public sector work. I had an idea stewing in the back of my mind for about a year and it became 'fully-formed' enough to be a proof-of-concept such…

15 points•bhollan•13 days ago•17 comments•
I'm a technologist and have experience in academia, private, and now public sector work. I had an idea stewing in the back of my mind for about a year and it became 'fully-formed' enough to be a proof-of-concept such that I filed a provisional patent a few months ago. At this point, I don't want to quit my day job (federal agency, GS11, but have an in to be GS15 within 3 years). But I really want my idea to succeed (or at the very least, see the light of day). I have some savings piled up, but I'm hesitant to spend it on 'grown-up' patent papers yet. I also already have 3 other 'side gigs' (not to mention 4 kids and a blushing bride) that take up more than most of my time. How would I even find someone that I could trust enough to help me take my idea and hit a home run with it?

I don't want to talk about the details of my invention. I did talk to a patent attorney that's done a couple dozen startups through their firm though. He said I could probably get $20k-$50k in seed money for it. It's not a "better mousetrap", it's more a "new thing" that's never existed before (but also never really 'needed to' before).

Do I NEED a co-founder, or can I 'slow-walk' launching a business based solely on a new gizmo? I'm not very good at social media/marketing, which is where I think my gizmo would thrive the most (but that's purely a guess). I feel like if I could find the perfect person, it really could explode, but I have literally not even the faintest clue where/how to start that. Am I an employer all-of-a-sudden even though I have no revenue to pay salaries?

Somebody heard that I had invented this thing and they asked me, "So, I hear you're an inventor?" And I kind of stammered and said "well.... it was an accident. I didn't mean to, I promise." This was mostly to be funny/silly, not that I don't believe in the idea. But I know this sort of 'startup/founder(s)/seed-money' thing is HN's bread-and-butter, so I at least thought I'd ask.

17 comments

dabinat13 days ago
You don’t need a co-founder, but doing everything yourself while you have another job will be slow. Competitors may be able to get around your patent and scale up faster than you.

Having someone else also means you’re accountable to them, which puts a bit more urgency on getting things done, in addition to being a sounding-board for your ideas.

notahacker12 days ago
To be blunt, you're more likely to find cofounders, partners or investors if your approach to asking somewhere you might actually find one is less "I've invented a new type of thing but I can't tell you what it is or even what vague market it's in".

Whether you need cofounders/advisers/contractors depends a lot on whether your idea is, "widget I can get made in bulk in China sell on Amazon", "mechanism that needs a lot of R&D to make it work" or "perfect solution to niche problem" and what the gaps in your own skillset and network are.

bhollan12 days ago
To be clear, I don't actually know if my "patentability" is sufficiently "non-obvious" or not. So I didn't want to talk about the invention/details _here_. I would obviously say more about the gizmo w/ potential cofounders.
Zaraif1311 days ago
Here's my $0.02.

On a Co-Founder:

1) Like raising kids as a single parent, it's possible but it's far better with a partner. Same thing goes for being a Solo Founder vs having a Co-Founder. The magic number, in my opinion, is 2 total Co-Founders for a startup.

2) The right cofounder will complement your expertise. It's basically "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts".

3) Make a list of everyone in your friend group, those you've worked with in the past 3 years and maybe even a few you went to college with. Mark those who are formidable, reach out to all the ones you marked and just have a conversation with each of them to see where it takes you. But have those conversations with the intent that any one of them could potentially be a Co-Founder.

On getting started:

1) There's literally no hard and fast rule. But I think it's a good idea to keep your day job, and spend evening and weekends working on pulse checking your product with potential customers/users. Prioritize heavily on getting in front of customers. Patents don't matter much.

2) See how far you can take this as a business on your own while looking for a Co-Founder. Do both in parallel.

3) Limit yourself to a fixed time period, maybe a month, to lift this off the ground. And tell yourself, if you haven't seen any progress in a month after trying hard then maybe it's not worth it. Traction matters most, try and get some in any form within that month. For example, I know of people who are building electric motorbikes who got initial interest just by taking a detailed 3D printed model to potential distribution partners.

Good luck! :)

PS: Counterintuitively, I think having a supportive family gives you more purpose to build something enduring and meaningful.

rahuljha040311 days ago
One of the main challenge is, building trust takes time. Even if you feel you have got one, it will take time to develop faith in your partner. When I left my job in 2024 to work on my idea or join someone else's idea, I tried working with many people, but none worked out. It's way different than what it seems from the top.

As of now, I still believe finding a cofounder and it makes things easier especially when you have a job and a family which takes most of your time. You just need to be practical and see red flags which will tell you it won't work out.

I think best is to try without compromising important details of your project, when you feel you can trust, then go 100%.

skyberrys13 days ago
You only have 12 months after filing the provisional application to get the full patent application in. You might not need a cofounder, but you definitely need a plan with a timeline.

If it's a choice between being too slow, losing the market timing and the provisional patent protections or finding a co-founder, then find a cofounder. Is it more work to find the cofounder vs develop it yourself? You can try posting a linkedIn job ad for a cofounder, someone found me that way, and yes it was upfront about the salary situation but there are people out there who might be in the right circumstances to take you up on what you can bring to the table.

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